Hate Incidents

The UK Column broadcast on 17 February 2020 with Brian Gerrish, David Scott and Mike Robinson (about 21 mins into the programme)

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Mike Robinson: "Now last week we were talking about queer theory, David. You mentioned the Highland Times. Well the Highland Times has been writing a bit more on this."

David Scott: "Yes, this is another article by Bruce Scott ... looking at the nature of Queer theory. So he writes:"

"They`re coming for our kids, the Highland Times has warned, and so I thought it might be worth taking a closer look at Scotland`s Queer theory inspired LGBT inclusive education. Queer theory/gender ideology and its application in schools can be summed up in an influential book published in 2009 called `Interrogating Heteronormativity in Primary Schools: the Work of the No Outsiders Project`, edited by Renee de Palma and Elizabeth Atkinson."

"And it says that Andrew Moffat contributed to this book. Now Andrew Moffat, he was the headmaster from Birmingham who led the charge to bring this sort of education into Birmingham schools which got all the push back from  the Muslim, Christian and Jewish communities in Birmingham and was headline news and we reported on it at some length. and Dr Scott continues here."

"Its stated objectives were to understand the operation of `heteronormativity (heterosexual behaviour, lifestyle), its normalisation, and to develop means to challenge its normativity, in primary schools. It wanted to develop teaching practices within the classroom so it could carry these objectives out."

"Another more sinister aim of the project was, as the authors lamented, to address the omission in primary schools of sexuality, pleasure, bodies and desire which ordinarily, within educational settings with children is omitted (quite rightly in my opinion) to protect children..."

"An even darker aspect of No Outsiders lurks hidden in their manifesto for queering the classroom."

"The overt disdain for heteronormativity is revealed in discussions of a need for the rejection of heterosexuality and reproduction. They argue that there is a need to challenge reproductive futurism (human reproduction of children and its heterosexual nature) and that queering the classroom and human reproduction are at odds with each other."

"Indeed, the rational for teaching children at all is questioned, as queer existences or lifestyles are antagonistic to a reproductive future: i.e., as in heteronormativity, where the future, child and family are valued."

"In other words the notion of the family: a biological Mum and Dad, heterosexuality, commitment to heterosexual monogamy for one`s children and the future, all need to be sacrificed on the altar of Queer theory; the present alternative sexualities (LGBT/Queer sexualities), alternative lifestyles (e.g. open relationships/polyamory) Sex as only for pleasure or immediate gratification is the ideal of a queer Utopia."

"That`s the underlying philosophy that`s driving sex education in Scottish schools and it would appear in schools in Birmingham and other places in England as well."

Mike Robinson: "OK .... which brings us on to this article in Cambridgeshire Live. This is a so-called professor from Anglia Ruskin university, Patricia MacCormack, and the headline in Cambridgeshire Live was `The Only Solution for Climate Change is letting the Human Species go Extinct` ... but at the back of it David is the same Queer theory."

"Absolutely, yes. She`s launched a book, `Ahuman Manifesto`. The book argues that due to the damage done to other living creatures on Earth, we should start gradually phasing out reproduction,  exactly the same ideology here, but rather than offering a bleak look at the future of humanity `it has generated discussion due to its joyful and optimistic tone, as it sets out a positive view for the future of Earth - without mankind`."

"So this is very very profoundly dangerous stuff."

Brian Gerrish: "We`re going to get rid of mankind, joyfully !"

David Scott: "Yes, and just a final slide here of the various organisations pushing this.  We`ve got Stonewall; we`ve got the TIE campaign, Scotland. We`ve also got Mermaids. Here they`re encouraging children to think about gender being a spectrum and they`re not a boy or a girl but something in between. And just to point out that ... currently Starbucks are running a campaign to raise money for Mermaids, so I`m afraid, personally, I won`t be drinking in Starbucks."

Brian Gerrish wonders whether reporting on this topic is going to be made more difficult in future and refers to a case in the press recently about a former policeman who was visited by the homicide police for commenting on Twitter about transgender matters.

 "Let`s have a look at the start of this BBC news - and this is from a couple of days ago - the headline is that Former [high ranking] policeman Harry Miller commented on some tweets and the next minute the police ... had visited his place of work in January last year. Somebody had made a complaint. He was never told who had actually made the complaint ... and then what [the police] said to him is that basically they wanted to check his thinking and they also said well you haven`t actually committed a crime but there has been a hate incident... They indicated that they had logged his name even though he was not guilty of committing any crime... [Mr Miller] believed that if he did not stop speaking and stop tweeting [about transgender matters] that the police were going to take action. So this became a freedom of speech issue."

"Let`s have a look at the Telegraph. `Police compared to Stasi and Gestapo by judge as he rules they interfered in freedom of speech by investigating `non crime` trans tweet.,, Former Police Officer Harry Miller said the police`s actions had a chilling effect on his right to free speech`. So we`re into very very dangerous territory here. This man did not commit any crime but nevertheless he gets the police at his door and as far as he`s concerned the police were threatening him that he needed to change and shut up or he would be in further trouble. So the reporting in the press, very interesting."

"Let`s have a look at what the judge said according to the mainstream press. The claimant`s tweets were lawful and ... there was not the slightest risk that he would commit a criminal offence by continuing to tweet. I find the combination of the police visiting the claimant`s place of work, and their subsequent statements in relation to the possibility of prosecution, were a disproportionate interference with the claimant`s right to freedom of expression because of their potential chilling effect...."

"So you`re led into a world that this is a very good judge and this man is standing up for free speech and the court case has gone quite well . Let`s follow it along because he said some more: `I conclude that the police`s actions led him reasonably to believe that he was being warned not to exercise his right to freedom of expression about transgender issues on pain of potential criminal prosecution`...."

"So we get a look into the mindset of Mr Miller. He was very worried that if he did anything more the police were going to be on his case and it appears that this judge is also very worried about his freedom of expression."

"So the judge then said... `In this country we have never had a Cheka, a Gestapo or a Stasi. We have never lived in an Orwellian society`. Well at that point we might have thought that the media in particular would have been very concerned about this case but it was fascinating to notice because of the style of reporting by Grimbsy Live here; because they more or less made this very damning comment into complete fun by putting up a main page on the internet, at least, with a big superimposed picture..."

"So that this very very serious event, impinging on freedom of speech, was made into a joke and Grimbsy Live did something else which I found very interesting because if you follow through the article it suddenly came up with this banner:"

"Now this is one of the key tweets that was involved in the case."

"Now remember that Mr Miller didn`t actually tweet this out himself: he simply commented, but Grimsby Live so paranoid that it felt it had to sort of put a firewall in front of the tweet itself."

"So this results in a court case When we follow through the court case... we start to see deeper and darker issues because the judge said `[I reject] a wider challenge to the lawfulness of the College of Police guidance [and] rule that it serves legitimate purposes and is not disproportionate`. Now what he`s talking about is the fact that the guidance defines a transgender hate incident as `any non-crime incident which is perceived by the victim or any other person to be motivated by a hostility or prejudice against a person who is transgender or perceived to be transgender`."

"The judge is saying very clearly that he completely stands up for that particular piece of guidance by the police and what`s more he said this: `The recording of non-crime hate incidents barely encroaches on freedom of expression, if it does so at all the aims of the guidance are `extremely important`."

"So having judged against the police action he reinforces the legitimacy of the College of Policing in creating `law` and recording and holding personal data for non crimes. David, it seems to me that this judge is giving a perfect example of the Orwellian future which he claims we`ve never lived in."

David Scott: "Yes. `War is peace. Freedom is slavery.` This is `Black is white`. This is exactly correct. Now we`ve seen this in Scotland... because of the same guidance being used as de facto legislation in Scotland. It`s called the Haters Campaign in Scotland. and if you say anything, tweet anything, write anything that anybody anywhere thinks might be offensive that can be a hate incident."

"This is nonsense. How can ... anybody possibly express themselves in public? It`s completely ridiculous. Now it was the Wee Flea blogger [who] made this completely ridiculous by reporting the `Police Scotland Haters Campaign` to Police Scotland as a hate incident... He was offended by it because of its negative references to Christianity; and, of course, they wouldn`t record it... because they decided that it was `all well`. But that`s not what the guidance says: It says if anybody, anywhere sees something as offensive then that becomes a hate incident. It`s about any of the protected groups. So the whole thing is insane, completely, unworkable and deeply Orwellian. Why could the judge not say that?"

Brian Gerrish: "Well I think we might ask some questions about the judge himself - we can`t do that today - but let`s come over to the College of Policing that produced the law that has now been approved by the judge. So, of course, they were crowing. So the two highlighted bits here: `The Honourable Mr Justice Julian Knowles ruled the mere recording of a non crime hate incident based on an individual`s speech is not an interference of their rights and if it was it is prescribed by law and done for two of the legitimate aims in article 10` and also because part of the challenge had been common law they crowed that that challenge at common law had been rejected. "

"So this was very, very dark once you got into the ruling by the judge. He wasn`t actually standing up for freedom of individuals and free speech; he was going somewhere down the middle and that`s a very dangerous line."

"But the Police College continued to crow. Here`s Bernie O`Reilly, Detective Chief Constable, Executive Director.  He said that he was pleased the court had recognised the guidance on recording non-crime hate incidents was `both lawful and extremely important in protecting people. Our guidance is about protecting people because of who they are and we know this is an area where people may be reluctant to report things to us`."

"And he said `The College of Policing`s position is clear - we want everyone to feel able to express opinions as passionately as they wish without breaking the law. Hate incidents can be a precursor to these types of crimes and without recording them the police will begin to lose sight of what is happening in their communities - and potentially lose their confidence."

"So, is it law? We don`t yet know.  He was also using Twitter himself to crow about the result." 

"So there was no other comment about ... Mr Miller or the wider concerns about the incident itself; it simply was crowing praise for the fact that the court had said that their policy stood but we couldn`t help note that Mr O`Reilly was also promoting LGBT and therefore presumably transgender material himself. So one says: `Is the College of Policing neutral on this particular subject?`"

"And if you want to know what that college is, well it`s not quite what you think. It was established in 2012 as a professional body for the police. It intends to be a not-for-profit membership organisation and they are looking to achieve chartered status although they haven`t achieved that: `We will have a mandate to set standards.` Now if they haven`t got a mandate to set standards at the moment, how can they set policy which has now been labelled as law? I don`t know. `We also have a remit to set standards on police service training and development and as a professional body for policing. The government`s intention is for the College of Policing to operate independently of the Home Office` ... It`s a private limited company and if you go online you can have a look at the details. `We`ve got thirty three... officers` who sit on this company and now can make, apparently, law, but they are independent of the Home Office, Mike."

"Well, until you look at the accounts where you suddenly find that they`re funded predominantly from the Home Office.,, They`re funding a private limited company making law that allows [the police] to record non-crimes..."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVlInIYCyjw

The Scottish Malaise

[UK Column News 10 February 2020]

David Scott reported on the recent account in the Sun concerning MSP David Mackay and his persistent text messages to a teenage boy. [about 22 mins into the programme]

There were over 200 texts sent to the boy, Scott pointed out, and among them Mackay offered to take the boy to a rugby game even though Mackay himself had no interest in rugby, but the boy was interested. He also offered to take him canvassing and dinner afterwards amongst other things. Scott emphasised that this went on and on and on, despite the fact that Mackay knew the boy was only sixteen because he had asked him directly.

"Now the Scottish conservatives in parliament," according to  David Scott, "Actually called this very accurately, and somewhat unusually...They quoted the NSPCC guidelines to what is grooming."

"And NSPCC goes on to explain how this happens and it talks about authority figures being involved, social media and networks of text messages being a medium of information being passed around. And it talks about the groomer giving advice, showing understanding, giving attention, taking the young person on trips, outings, holidays, this sort of thing. So all of this, it seems to be a classic case of child grooming."

"Now the mother found out about this last week and I would have to say played it exactly right. She didn`t go just to Police Scotland; she didn`t go to the politicians; she went to the press... They put her on the front page and Mackay had to go..."

"Of course there are other stories coming out.  Here`s one reported in the Daily Record." 

"A married SNP activist last night told how disgraced Derek Mackay bombarded him with messages for almost four years, including one asking: `Got any naughty pics?"

"Of Course, Nicola Sturgeon claimed she knew none of this; it was a shock to her; she never saw any of this coming, despite having actually banned him from drinking at a party conference because of his behaviour some years ago. I`m not quite sure what the behaviour was. Maybe we`ll find out."

"When the information was brought forward by the Sun they went to the Scottish government looking for comment, the Scottish government wasn`t actually shocked.  In fact, they tried to... suppress the information." 

"So the Scottish government said:

"`Given you yourself state that there is nothing illegal or unlawful in the messages, can you advise on your justification for publication, given the intrusion into private and family life, and correspondence, including digital communication.`"

David Scott: "Do you see the implied threat of law breaking? `Oh you`re accessing digital communications; you could be breaking the law. Do you see where they`re pushing? It`s private life. So grooming a sixteen year-old boy is private family life..! " 

"They were asked did they obtain this information by legitimate means. They were asked for the name of the boy but the Sun did not give in to any of this pressure and published anyway."

"The reaction was quite stunning in Scotland. The degree to which people quickly realised that this was part of a bigger malaise in the SNP was very striking.  But also, the reactions of the true believers within the SNP to defend the utterly indefensible was equally striking. The most egregious example is on the next slide where an SNP councillor - so this is someone with some responsibility, to some extent, in child protection issues - heard about this and her view was: `It`s all a nasty British establishment unionist plot.` She said: `Stupid man, probably a honey trap set up by the British establishment and he`s walked right into it.`"


There were others who considered that the mother and boy did not even exist, to which David Scott commented: "No, I`m sorry, this is a predatory homosexual going after a young sixteen year-old boy. That`s what it is. We have to face reality here."

"Now of the various people who looked at the wider implications, one of the best, yet again, was the Wee Flea. This is a blog by a minister of the Free Church of Scotland, formerly in Dundee and he`s looking at it as if it`s the end of the Scottish government and I don`t think this is hyperbole. This is absolutely existential because this gets to the heart of everything the Scottish government is doing. The concentration on children, the concentration on very often 16 year-old children, the whole woke pro-gay agenda, all of this starts to play into this particular little drama."

"Now this also plays into the pushing of both the queer agenda and queer theory in schools and also some very troubling developments where the Scottish government is pushing sexual education of a most alarming nature into schools."

"And so the next video we`ll just play in the background. This is from a Dundee school which is one where the Wee Flea blogger had direct involvement... "

Quoting from the Wee Flea blog: 

"This video suggests that it is the children themselves who are leading this sexual revolution which is as nonsensical as saying that Mao`s little Red Brigades were spontaneous uprisings in favour of the great leader and had nothing to do with him or the communist party. The children on these videos are being indoctrinated... they have a shallow and cheap view of love... and they even have their own `pupil led` committee to ensure that everyone else is on song."

"The deputy head teacher, an LGBT activist, is responsible for this - along with my old sparring partner Gregor Murray, the former head of Dundee Education - who was fired because of his abusive tweets against feminists. Gregor is a radical exponent of queer theory. This leads to confused children and is in my opinion a form of child abuse and it is a kind of grooming - preparing children for sexual activity in [not too] later life. The trouble is, as parents told me, if they raise concerns about this, they are frightened of being labelled homophobic or transphobic."

"Now this ties in with the experience recently in Birmingham where Christian, Muslim and Jewish parents stood up against the education being forced on the children and they were labelled homophobic and transphobic... So some of the comments on Twitter  have been truly excellent on this. I mean some of the analysis that has actually been delivered on Twitter has been far in excess of anything coming out of the mainstream press."

"So here`s Malcolm Clark."

"It`s easy to dismiss this story as just another one about a politician blowing up his career with dodgy behaviour. But if the Scottish government isn`t careful it could become emblematic."

"For too long any criticism of its deepening obsession with LGBT issues has been denounced as homophobic and any concern that`s expressed about a failure to take seriously the safeguarding of children is dismissed as bigotry."

"But maybe Derek Mackay has inadvertently opened a little window into the shared culture of some top level Scottish politicians. Maybe we should ask how seriously they really take the risks to 16 year-olds and other children from some of their key policies."

"And he then talks about: `There`s been a 3,000% explosion in school age kids being referred to gender identity clinics in less than a decade, in what some experts think is a social contagion spiralling out of control`. [A similar organisation in Glasgow has seen an 80% increase.]

"When critics warn Scottish ministers all this is a child safeguarding nightmare they roll their collective eyes. They`ve taken advice they say. But who are their experts? The government has taken advice almost exclusively from a tiny clique of LGBTQ lobby organisations."

"Stonewall Equality Network LGBT Youth & Scottish Trans Alliance form a magic circle of influence. Personnel are best buddies with leading politicians and by an amazing coincidence these organisations then obtain huge funding from the same administration their mates run." 

He then lists some of this funding...

"It totals something like two million over three years. So the government pay the lobbyists to lobby the government to make the change. That`s how it works, and the change is rapid. Parents are not being asked. And this brings us to an excellent article by Bruce Scott in the Scottish Review. He`s talking about the crisis of consent in Scottish schools."

"Exposing children or adults to a spurious ideology based on dubious scientific methods is a form of abuse or adversity if consent is not obtained. The ACE* `movement`s` cry for ACE aware schools for example, is effectively a psycho-educational treatment based on theoretical facets of cognitive behavioural therapy (CBT); i.e. resilience indoctrination in schools under RSHE (relationships, sex, health education). This programme is nothing more than inappropriate focussing of a child`s mind on their own mind, creating issues where none are, creating distress in children who do not have the maturity to introspect to such a degree, and manufacturing `mental health` difficulties due to iatrogenic effects of the `treatment`."

*ACE (Adverse Childhood Experiences) which are meant to dominate the rest of [a child`s] life.

"He goes on:"

"This brings me to another area where consent and/or consultation with parents are being disregarded even further with plans to roll out LGBT inclusive education in Scottish schools. Supposedly the driving force behind this policy drive in Scotland (supposedly, as it is argued that it is in fact a United Nations driven agenda) is the TIE Campaign (Time for Inclusive Education) in Scotland. TIE, along with the Scottish government and their LGBT Inclusive Education policy working group are proposing that every aspect of the school curriculum, from nursery/primary one upwards, is to include LGBT focussed materials. What is the drive behind this?"

"So he finishes off by saying:"

"Children are precious and vulnerable. We must get this right now, rather than realising in 10 or 20 years from now that we have harmed children. No doubt due to reports in the media of psychologists resigning from the Tavistock Gender Clinic in London over worries of pressuring children into gender transition, and the skyrocketing of referrals of 4-10 year-olds to gender identity clinics, it may be that the tide is turning, and people are waking up."

"More people need to wake up, especially parents. If parents do not fight for their children, who will? Chief Mammy and the Scottish Government? I don`t think so."

"So he`s seeing this as a rising tide of state sponsored abuse and I think he`s absolutely correct."

"The Highland Times here looked at the sort of sex education materials that are being introduced by the Scottish government into Scottish schools."

"If you`re a parent, and already alarmed, I warn you to prepare to be enraged. Schools are currently rolling out a radical new SNP Scottish Government sex education policy."

"I use the term radical because it is nothing like the sex education anyone reading this article will have undergone."

"When I was at school, in second-year science class (I was 12 or 13 then) I was first introduced to our `bits`. My class had to wait a whole year to find out what those `bits` were used for and it was still taught in a science lab."

"Now, under the SNP Scottish government`s new policy, the mood has shifted dramatically to include discussions on genres of pornography (lesbian, interracial, facial); utilising porn in masturbation, paying for a prostitute; oral and anal sex... The accompanying `learning materials` are extremely graphic and sick."

"So that is what is being introduced into schools. We don`t see grooming simply by one member of the Scottish government; we see grooming of children by the entire state, the SNP, by Scottish government and my concern is that this will be the next Rotherham; this will be the next wave of child abuse and we`ll be talking about how did we not see it happen, ten or twenty years from now when in fact this time more obviously than ever before it is in fact the state that is pushing it."

Brian Gerrish: "Perhaps we should add to that for listeners and viewers south of the border that the Scottish government under its Named Person scheme said that the Scottish government would nominate people to be the guardians of children from conception, I think, [true, it appears in some documents] but certainly from birth. So the same Scottish government who said it was capable of looking after children, we now start to see what type of agenda the Scottish government has got. Not just planned, it has actually implemented this."

"So the squashing of the Named Person scheme, [was] a very important step forward." 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOCdbu6Y-Ts

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From the Scottish Family Party which David Scott gives credit to:

Free speech for some

Brian Gerrish informed viewers that he was going to be taking a swipe at the BBC. He began by saying: "I couldn`t help but notice `Election explained, What to check for on climate change`. So that`s second from the left on the top of your screen there. If you clicked on that image up came this, which to my mind is a children`s image. Everything about it is probably attractive to two, three, four year old children, but this is now for adults in UK."

"Meanwhile, as the UK Column covers some of the most dangerous stuff going on, this is the childish dross from the BBC`. I have to use that word again, Mike ... "

"But serious things here: the BBC crowing that a High Court judge has ruled in favour of permanently banning protests outside the Birmingham school where parents were complaining that their children were actually being sexualised at too young an age."

"Now what did the BBC do? Of course it ran this story in a completely biased way, that any parent complaining of the content of the sex education, was actually homophobic, and as a result, I believe,... we`ve now seen the school successfully go to court for the protests to be banned."

"And, of course, if these protests can be banned, ... any protest anywhere in UK can now be banned by the High Court."

"Except for Extinction Rebellion," Mike Robinson reminded Brian Gerrish.

"Well I`m going to come on to that in a minute, Mike. But just have a look at the sort of thing the BBC put out. There`s a big focus here on West Midlands Mayor, Andy Street. He said the protests are clearly homophobic, against LGBT teaching at the primary school and it`s got to stop. Well, of course, that`s not the case. The parents, who were Christian, Muslim and indeed Jewish, were protesting that their children were being overtly sexualised at too young an age which is something completely different."

"But if you`re not aware of the definition we now have for homophobia here it is: `it`s fear, hatred, discomfort with, or mistrust of people who are lesbian, gay or bisexual... `That definition has absolutely nothing to do with the actual protest by the parents. So the BBC can be very proud because, essentially, they have now helped the British State take a major step in silencing free speech. And, of course, the other thing this relates to is the fact that the State wants to claim it is the parent of your child, or your children."

Mike Robinson: "Absolutely. But if you`re running a school and there`s a potential for protest, you don`t need to worry because there`s some really excellent advice available from the Department for Education ...I`m being somewhat sarcastic when I use the word `excellent`."

Brian Gerrish continued: "Let`s have a look to see what Gov.uk is saying: ... "

"Primary school disruption over LGBT teaching/relationships education. And they`re saying that `relationships education will be compulsory for all primary school aged pupils from September 2020. In addition relationships and sex education will be compulsory for all secondary pupils and health education will be compulsory for all pupils. They`re saying that some organisations are  opposed to the introduction of these subjects, or to some of the expected content set out in the statutory guidance for the subjects, and have been campaigning nationally against the subjects and organising locally to encourage parents to influence their schools’ teaching. The majority of the objections relate to the teaching of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) content, particularly in primary schools."

"And then we come on to point 3 which is all about intelligence sharing and support available. And they say: `It is important that you pass on intel to DfE about disquiet in your local area and signs that this might be building towards disruptive activity. DfE can better support local authorities if there is a real time picture of issues in local areas and patterns of activities... You should seek further support from DfE making clear you are asking for support, not just passing on intel (as above) and an official will be in touch quickly to discuss options.`,.."

"And so the language here building is quite spectacular and your point earlier, which is...`military`."

Brian Gerrish agreed, "It is military language. There is no question that this is military language. Possibly you`re going to pick it up with specialist police teams as well. But I wonder whether we`ve got a hint of, not only the Metropolitan Police in there, but also the 77th Brigade." 

Brian Gerrish then contrasted the immense overreaction at the Birmingham school with what the Department for Education`s Countering Extremism team did when UK Column provided them with evidence of extremism on 9th October 2019.  They had provided evidence that  Extinction Rebellion was not only carrying out criminal activity, it was recruiting school age children, using school premises to train them for that criminal activity.

"We`ve had back from them absolute silence ... So we provided documents for Extinction Rebellion where they were calling for people to break the law; we provided documents showing Extinction Rebellion training the people in primary schools ... and using those Department for Education facilities. We`ve provided BBC documentation where the BBC was saying it was concerned; and we`ve provided the excellent analysis by a former head of SO15, the counter terrorism force within the MET. And the result from the Department for Education was silence."

"So we can call up all these systems to suppress parents who dare challenge what their children are being taught in school; but if you give the Department for Education ... factual evidence of criminal activity by Extinction Rebellion, they don`t want to know."

"What does that suggest?"

"It suggests that Extinction Rebellion represents government policy."

"Indeed."

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Globetrotting Greta, now telling the global elites about climate change at Davos, a message they seem more than willing to accommodate.

Pornography education for children

Mike Robinson of UK Column was talking to Alex Thomson via video link on Friday 11 October 2019.

"Well this is the Times and the headline here is Parents take on John Swinney over porn lessons in new curriculum... That`s quite a headline."

"It is because `parents` is deliberately dishonest. Both the Times and the Scottish Sun came to this only yesterday whereas it had been put out on YouTube by the man asking the question the previous weekend. His name is Richard Lucas. His YouTube channel is easily found: Scottish Family Party. We`re not endorsing that or any other party, but it`s easily found. And there was disingenuously not a single mention... in the serious Times, or the sexualised dumbed down Sun, of the fact that it was Mr Lucas, the chairman of a political party, and he was just described as another dad in both of these articles."

Mike Robinson: "And he intervened in a Q and A with Mr Swinney; so let`s have a listen to what happened and how Swinney responded to this intervention..."

"Well my first response to this is that is quite a spectacular response to his intervention because as he rightly said ... in the middle of that, if that material is not suitable for that audience, and to be live streamed onto YouTube, how can it possibly be suitable for a high school or a primary school audience?"

"Correct Mike. The most shocking thing that most people have found about this much shared clip has been the arm waving lady. Now the real shocker is this: the arm waving lady is not officially the Scottish government. You might think that she was there as a bag carrier for John Swinney, the number two of the Scottish National Party, but no, she is in fact Joanna Murphy the chairwoman of National Parent Forum Scotland. Now the last term is the give away. Scotland, under the SNP, has done what Canada did in the 2000s, which is to tag the name of the country onto the end of a genuine NGO to create a government front NGO. So National Parent Forum Scotland, the last word negates the previous words. It is no longer therefore a national parent forum otherwise why would this lady be playing Stockholm syndrome for the sexualisation of children, which is what parents are supposed to be there to prevent? No, by putting Scotland on the end, she has become captured in the way that the whole of the third sector is, particularly in Scotland, and bounden to do the bidding of those who pay, which is the Scottish government."

"So there she is in a particularly egregious case of cognitive dissonance because she is there to be basically Scotland`s chief parent, although I know that title was stupidly given to Nicola Sturgeon, chief mammy, but she`s there representing the parents of Scotland, if anyone else is surely her, chairman of that body but she cannot abide what`s being said because she is there really to protect the Scottish government. It`s the unified government model again, the Scottish model of government."

"Absolutely, Well let`s just have a quick look at Swinney`s response to this.... So again Alex he is trying to fall back on the tired old position: this is just the way the world is and therefore we`ve got to bombard our children with this material to make sure that they`re equipped to deal with it but, in fact, there`s no evidence whatsoever that this protects children in any way. Quite the contrary this, in fact, drives these types of thoughts into the minds of children. It`s not a productive thing at all. It is a dangerous thing. Where is the precautionary principle in this case because again with respect to global warming and so on we have the precautionary principle shoved down our throats, but in this case, and... one or two other policy areas as well, it`s nowhere to be seen?" 

"Mike, wherever we see the precautionary principle thrown out the window, it is because the government and regulatory bodies are actually financially interested in one side of the equation and we`ve seen that with 5G, obviously, and here is the same case with pornography. I`m afraid it`s a repetition..."

"I agree absolutely and I`ve mentioned this several times before, that my mother who was a primary school principal always held the view that behaviour issues in schools were not being reflected by programmes such as Grange Hill, which the BBC was pushing out when we were children, Alex, but in fact the television programming was driving the behaviour problems in the schools and that applies equally here I think as well."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeRZ1518pZc

Breaking the law and non-violent extremism

On Wednesday 9th October in Glasgow, a group of primary schoolchildren could be seen being paraded around an empty, wet George`s Square by their teacher chanting about climate change.

As one observer asked: "Should teachers be using young children like this for their own political agendas? " 

The spectacle was more dramatic in London over the weekend.

"Well speaking of destabilisation, of course, Extinction Rebellion have begun their protest in London today. Well, it led over the weekend with this." 

Referring to the recent demonstrations in London, Mike Robinson on UK Column News 7 October 2019 remarks: "Here`s a tweet from Damien Gayle: `Police use a battering ram to break into Extinction Rebellion warehouse `... Well they`re having a hard job getting in there it seems, the heavy door. If you read the rest of Damien Gayle`s tweets he`s been quite pro-Extinction Rebellion ... In fact the police was acting on behalf of the landlords who were wanting to get these people out and perhaps they were taking advantage of that to get some PR in; but no evidence today that the police are actually doing anything to get the Extinction Rebellion protesters off the streets."

"Or under control," adds Brian Gerrish.

"But we don`t need to worry because there`s a ... new Countering Extremism policy coming through because this is Sarah Khan who leads the commission on Countering Extremism and she`s carried out the first ever national conversation on extremism - I`m sure you know all about that."

Brian Gerrish says sarcastically: "Well I do now, yes. But I don`t think the average person does."

Mike Robinson: "Yes, so was there a national conversation then? I`m not aware there was. And she has apparently received the government`s current approach . So they have today decided to publish their findings and recommendations in their report which is called Challenging Hateful Extremism. And they have categorised a new kind of extremist behaviour outside terrorism and violent extremism which has been called `hateful extremism,` so that`s what we`re looking at now."

"So it says: `Hateful extremism is behaviour that can incite and amplify hate, or engage in persistent hatred, or equivocate about and make the moral case for violence; hateful extremism can also draw on hateful, hostile or supremacist beliefs directed at an out-group who are perceived as a threat to the wellbeing, survival or success of an in-group; that cause, or are likely to cause, harm to individuals, communities or wider society`."

"So the examples she gives are the spreading of hate filled views: LBGTQ+ people during the row over relationship teaching in Birmingham. Were you aware that there was hate filled rhetoric about LGBTQ over that?"

"Well of course there absolutely hasn`t been Mike. You wouldn`t believe that if you read the BBC report but if you follow through where the parents have protested in Birmingham, they are simply protesting that children`s innocence has been taken away too early with the RSE education and they are not directly focusing on anything to do with the LGBTQ community at all. It`s to do with the age of the children and the material that they`ve been given. So this seems like a back door effort to help clamp down on those parents, I would say."

"Amongst other things. So she also said, another example is: three quarters of those countering extremism on the ground have personally received abuse, intimidation and harassment because of their work; is what she`s claimed.. And she said that `unlike the government`s response to terrorism the current response to hateful extremism is inadequate and unfocused` so she`s calling for `a new focus and a robust victim centred and rights based approach to ensuring that we respond appropriately to the threat. And therefore she`s recommending a rebooted government strategy and a new taskforce led by the Home Secretary.` So they would `work with the Home Secretary, with government bodies and civil society to assess any ongoing or emerging situations and put a response in place`."

Brian Gerrish: "So this is `participatory democracy` - so called participatory democracy - because you`re not going to involve voters and the general public; you`re going to bring in the NGOs and the think tanks in order to get your desired policy across."

Mike Robinson: "Well indeed which is why this national conversation took place and nobody knows anything about it because, of course, the only people who took part in it were the NGOs and civil society organisations...."

"And charities."

 

"Yes, that she wants to encourage.... Well this was the Commission`s website when I took the screenshot of it this morning. Within ten minutes of me taking that they had put up the latest news story which is that the independent commission for countering extremism has published four new peer reviewed academic papers on Islamism and Sikh extremism. So they`re not talking about Extinction Rebellion, they`re not talking about anything other than Islamic extremism, and now Sikh extremism."

Four Academic Papers

`Mainstreaming Islamism: Islamist Institutions and Civil Society Organisations`
`Mainstream Islamism in Britain: Educating for the `Islamic Revival`
`What is to be Done about al-Mughajiroun? Containing the Emigrants in a Democratic Society`
`The changing nature of activism amongst Sikhs in the UK today` 

"And I thought that title was interesting because what they`re now doing is conflating activism with extremism. So if you`re an activist, you`re an extremist. But if you`re an activist for Extinction Rebellion, that`s not extremism."

Brian Gerrish: "Absolutely not."

Mike Robinson: "We`ll come on to that. So they`re saying that second generation street activism is getting too close to the far right, so really we`ve got to be concerned about that now."

"Right. So that`s fascinating. Actually if you have a look at Ms Khan on the internet, you`ll find a lot of people deeply concerned with her inability to do the job that she`s been given. But we`ll let you do your own research on that. But come to Extinction Rebellion because of course Extinction Rebellion has rapidly become the darling of the BBC. We`ve all seen the almost unlimited, free publicity, thanks to TV licence payers. So here`s one of the headlines: "

"`Who are Extinction Rebellion and what do they want? And they`ve gone from law breaking organisation to - we`ll show you why we`re saying that - to peaceful darling of the BBC. So these are the sorts of reports and what the BBC are saying. In London, it aims to `peacefully occupy the centres of power and shut them down.`We`ve got: What is Extinction Rebellion? And here it describes itself as an international `non-violent civil disobedience activist movement`." 

"This is another one that came out shortly before it became live. `Extinction Rebellion UK arrests as global demonstrations begin. They want governments to declare a `climate and ecological emergency` and take immediate action to address climate change`. Although interestingly Extinction Rebellion doesn`t say how, apart from a citizens committee. It describes itself as an `international non-violent civil disobedience activist movement`."

"So what can we say? Well this was an earlier report from the BBC and we highlighted it a couple of weeks ago... if you read this they had a journalist working for them..."

`2019 has marked a change in public attitudes to climate change driven in part by a huge new global protest movement.`

`In this timely and powerful documentary, reporter Ben Zand gains access to the most important of the protest groups, Extinction Rebellion. He is with them for four months, as they build towards `the rebellion` ll days of protest in April during which they take over and occupy four iconic locations in London.`

`The film follows three young people who have been inspired to join and lead the protests. Many are not only protesting for the first time in their lives but are also putting their liberty on the line to demand radical action from the government. We are there as they organise street protests and direct action - risking arrest for their commitment to the cause.`

`16-year-old Dan from south London has never been on a protest before. Since joining Extinction Rebellion in 2018, she has co-organised nationwide school strikes. Sam is 22 and a recent graduate, but now works full-time for Extinction Rebellion and is willing to get arrested again and again until something changes. Jack joined the movement recently at age 18. He is inspired by the tactics and research laid out by Extinction Rebellion and has an eye on organising controversial splinter actions for the movement`.

`Ben also spends time with the leader of the movement, Roger Hallam, who has spent years academically researching tactics for social change. He says you need 2000 people to get arrested and 400 people to go to prison if you want the government to meet your demands. Ben challenges him on his methods and asks whether it is justifiable to encourage young people to break the law.`

`This film is the first to get inside the new climate movements. It reveals how they have mobilised a generation to take radical action to help save the planet from climate change.`

"And he`s actually talking about young people under the age of sixteen. So the BBC knew the reality, knew Extinction Rebellion was grooming young people to break the law. All that`s now gone Mike. It`s now a wonderful peaceful organisation. And let`s have a look at this carefully manipulated BBC clip here. Here`s Roger Hallam himself: And if we have a look at the video and listen to what`s being said, fascinating stuff."

"Absolutely fascinating piece of BBC propaganda there. One of the clues as to what is going on here is the fact that the clip is two minutes and nineteen seconds long* . This means that it can be tweeted out. The limit is two minutes 20 seconds for a video clip. So what we`re seeing is the BBC taking an organisation which it has said has been calling for people to break the law - criminal activity, extremist activity- and it gives them a soundbite where now - oh no no no, the blame is not on Extinction Rebellion, the blame is going to be on the authorities as a result of peaceful Ghandi type action. This is disgraceful propaganda by the BBC in order to support Extinction Rebellion, and that clip absolutely crafted, for people essentially to copy and tweet out support for Extinction Rebellion."

 "Now we`re just going to remind you that we got a hold of this document. which is Extinction Rebellion planning for people to break the law. We know that includes essentially children, those under the age of sixteen. `We need people prepared to be arrested and go to prison`. And we also confirmed... this document with Extinction Rebellion themselves. They said yes it`s their document, albeit one that is out of date. "
"We`ve also shown you that this excellent report by Richard Walton, the former SO15 counter extremism officer with the MET says that not only is this a dangerous law breaking organisation but actually it`s going for overthrow of the civil order and liberal democracy in UK. So that`s what a senior policeman says, but basically what does the BBC do? They promote them. Now in the background Extinction Rebellion is using Department for Education school facilities to recruit. This is the Grove school in Totness in Devon where they`ve been holding recruiting meetings. It`s freely available in the public domain. And this is the school itself."

"Now we have tried to ask the Department for Education for their policy on Extinction Rebellion and its use of schools to recruit, and the result has been secrecy, arrogance and a dismissive fob off. Now if this was Tommy Robinson and his crowd up to something Mike, or it was an organisation which had got the slightest hint of being right wing, we can imagine that these people would have been rounded up yesterday, but not Extinction Rebellion."

 

"And this is where it gets very interesting; because if you look at the government`s own website here`s Educate Against Hate and that is sponsored by the government, the Department for Education and the Home Office. It`s got a number on there. It says `If you`re concerned, call us,` which is what U|K Column did and this is the sort of response we got, that staff on the other end of the line wouldn`t give their names. They said: `We`re anonymous and we don`t give out names.` So we`ve got a secret organisation working within the Department for Education.  They obfuscated, they blurred the discussion; they were dismissive of the information we passed, most of which was in the public domain, that Extinction Rebellion is breaking the law and they clearly had little if any interest in any of the concerns. So we were eventually told to take our request for `What is the policy on Extinction Rebellion?` to the Department for Education press team. And at one stage there was a not very subtle attempt to say that the conversation was aggressive because we didn`t back down and give in to the fob off. They ended up by saying, email us information. So we are going to do that and we`ll see what the response is."

"But to come back to your lead Mike,  this is the Independent here reporting the Commission`s report and of course what is the focus? It`s on Islamic and right wing extremism. They`re not interested at all in anything to do with Extinction Rebellion."

 

"Now just to end the segment here, we did a little bit of homework on Countering Extremism. The document that`s the Policy 2015, this goes back to David Cameron and Teresa |May. So who`s in charge at the moment? Well we`ve got Priti Patel as Home Secretary, she`s responsible for Countering Extremism. We`ve got the Minister of State for Countering Extremism. That`s a Baroness William... She recently got a degree in nutrition. That`s going to get her a long way I think. And we`ve got this lady, Victoria Mary Atkins, barrister, now British Conservative party member Parliamentary Under Secretary of State for crime, safeguarding and vulnerability, and that includes countering extremism. We`ve got a lady inside the Department for Education who`s responsible for due diligence and countering extremism. She`s Sophie Taylor. I can`t find a picture of her but at least we`ve pinned down one of the key people and then we bring in Sarah Khan and her commission."

"But the reality is these people don`t want to deal with Extinction Rebellion even though it`s boasting it wants people to break the law and it`s recruiting people under the age of 16 using school facilities. So why would that be Mike? A guess from myself would be that actually Extinction Rebellion is partly being promoted by the government because of its climate change agenda."

"It represents a policy that the government is supportive of ..."

"And the rest can go under the carpet. We don`t mind what you do because the government wants this false climate agenda to come in. So we will keep asking the questions; we will be sending the Countering Extremism department more information and we`ll keep viewers and listeners up to date with what responses we get."

The Green Party and 5G

"Well let`s just remind people that at the end of last week the Green Party conference in Newport Wales was going on. But something that the Green Party didn`t want to get involved with was protesters warning about the dangers of 5G. So we`ve got a remarkable situation that the Green Party of course is everything about protecting the environment, except when people say: `Well ok what are you going to do about 5G?` and they don`t want to know. And a motion to talk about the dangers of 5G was prevented from getting into the conference debate. But people were outside protesting, so this caused some embarrassment to the Greens. This was a bit more of the protest outside the building itself, but lots of questions to be asked as to why the Green Party supposedly protecting the environment, protecting people, protecting nature, but when it comes to the big business of 5G they simply don`t want to know. So we`ll continue to ask questions on that front as well. "

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fubv3x6fP04

* The copy of Hard Talk on the blog is from youtube and is over 20 minutes long in contrast to the version produced on UK Column

Gender neutrality and diversity

"This was a story in the UK that came out at the end of last week," said Brian Gerrish on UK Column. "It was a school in Lewes and basically they`ve adopted gender-neutral uniforms and certainly the pupils, the girl pupils, not happy about this at all. So some of the teenage girls protested outside the school gates whereupon the school brought in police. And if you read the article there were people who were complaining that essentially that although the police did eventually go, there was a police officer defending the school against teenage girls who were unhappy at being told they couldn`t go to school because they dared to wear dresses."

"Well if you think this is one-off stuff, it`s not. This is now being rolled out across the country. So we were also given a heads up on this. Nottinghamshire Live report here. And this is about the teaching of sexual education in one of the Nottingham schools, Shirebrook Academy. It says they are set for a new trial of a controversial sex education programme . It`s the Relationships and Sex Education (RSE) material which is due to be rolled out across the country in September in 2020."

Mike Robinson: "So you said `trial`...So these children are being used as guinea pigs ? "

"Absolutely. And this school is particularly proud of that. We`ll get onto to that a little bit more."

"Pupils at the school will be able to give their feedback to the government."

 "I found that a very interesting comment. So the parents gently pushed off to one side, although the government claims there`s been consultation, but it`s the pupils who`ll be able to give their feedback. ... The pupils have given some good feedback to date because they`ve been protesting outside the gates."

"The curriculum guidelines are changing for the first time in nearly 20 years to introduce new topics, such as mental health and online safety. Other topics will include sharing explicit photos and pornography online, sexual and gender identities within families, and the need to respect and protect their relationships."

"Well let`s have a look at one of the key people. This is Mark Cottingham, the principal of  Shirebrook Academy and he said this:"

"There has been plenty of controversy surrounding the inclusion of topics within the updated RSE curriculum, with parents at some schools unhappy with themes they feel conflict with their personal beliefs. Our school already puts a lot of time and effort into teaching tolerance and acceptance and we are proud that this commitment means that we have had no hesitation in agreeing to become an early-adopter."

"So they know there`s been protests - this is what it was about in Birmingham, where uniquely we had Christian, Muslim and Jewish communities, all coming together to protest they didn`t want their children being indoctrinated. This man says: `Yes, we know all that but we`re proud to get this through`, and in it comes."

"He said: `We believe it`s our duty to support all of our students but also to prepare everyone for a world where people have more and more diverse identities. The RSC is not about telling them who or what to be or encouraging one identity above the other but making them aware of the differences and encouraging empathy and openness instead.` These statements, as you see in the government statements, they`re contradictory, because they are putting an agenda to the forefront - that`s the diversity agenda.  If you want to stick with the status quo of heterosexual relationships and one-to-one marriage, then this man`s policy is not for you. But he`s not interested in any other opinion apart from the one that is going to be pushed through the school."

Mike Robinson: "But if you look at what he says there `Also to prepare everyone for a world where people have more and more diverse identities. Who decided the world was going to be one where more and more people had ... diverse identities? Is he suggesting this is a natural evolution? Or is there something else going on?"

"Well, of course, he doesn`t say. If we follow through these sorts of policies we invariably end up at the United Nations, Mike. But the stop before that is of course our own government, and this is where the whole thing stems from: `Relationships education, relationships and sex education (RSE) and health education ... So I encourage people to go and have a look at this on the government site."
"And Get the Facts. So it says it`s introducing this: `Through these subjects, we want to support all young people to be happy, healthy and safe. We want to equip them for adult life and to make a positive contribution to society throughout our engagement process as we develop this curriculum. We`ve heard a number of wide-ranging concerns - most of which they`ve just simply ignored."

"So these are some of the questions. Do I have a right to withdraw my child from Relationships and Sex Education?" 

"Parents will have a right to withdraw their child from sex education delivered as part of RSE ... Then it says in the second paragraph. There is no right to withdraw from Relationships Education at primary or secondary as we believe the contents of these subjects - such as family, friendship, safety - are important for all children to be taught."

Mike Robinson: "Who is we ?"

"Who is we ?"

"Well this is the advisers for the government, of course. But we know that many people are deeply concerned about... what they propose to teach primary school children, but they`re being told here clearly by the government: `Well you don`t count as a parent; we`re going to tell you what your child is going to be taught and you`ve got no right to withdraw`."

"And then it goes on: `Will these subjects promote LGBT relationships? No, these subjects don`t `promote` anything, they educate.` Well this is a lie, because the whole of this is promoting a particular agenda, and parents are being told: `We`re going to get hold of your small children and re-educate them and you`re not going to have a say`."
 
"So I`m going to say `immensely dangerous stuff`. People should read this and see what`s happening. Now let`s come onto the media and here`s the BBC with Teach/ Class Clips. RSE KS2: Identity - Understanding sexual and gender identities. And in this film clip, we are to believe the BBC... these trusted people - we don`t know who they are - and these children are coming out with the most amazing questions about very, very difficult subjects."

"Now to my mind the average seven, eight, nine year old does not know these topics. So these topics have been introduced, the pot stirred for the children, to then [they] come forward confused and ask questions. We`ve got an unknown group of people who are giving the answers. To my mind, immensely dangerous. As a parent, immensely dangerous, but here`s the BBC standing up to say it believes in transparent media, fair media, involved in what I consider to be propaganda."  

 

"This is one of the documents - it`s from the BBC: LGBT Culture and Progression. I think that`s a very interesting picture of where the BBC stands on this topic. We`re not discussing right and wrong, we`re simply saying how much effort is put into a particular topic."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yE88iT4Zfc