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Showing posts with label justice. Show all posts
Showing posts with label justice. Show all posts
Thursday, 9 April 2020
Cardinal freed from jail
"Cardinal George Pell has been freed from jail after Australia's highest court overturned his conviction for child sexual abuse."
"The former Vatican treasurer, 78, was the most senior Catholic figure ever jailed for such crimes."
"In 2018, a jury found he abused two boys in Melbourne in the 1990s."
"But the High Court of Australia quashed that verdict on Tuesday, bringing an immediate end to Cardinal Pell's six-year jail sentence."
"The Australian cleric had maintained his innocence since he was charged by police in June 2017..."
"In December 2018, a jury found him guilty of sexually abusing two 13-year-old choir boys in private rooms of St Patrick's Cathedral in the mid-90s - when the cleric was Archbishop of Melbourne..."
"Covid-19 restrictions meant just three people were allowed into the public gallery of the courtroom in Brisbane, the home town of the chief justice where the High Court sat."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-52183157?at_custom2=twitter&at_custom4=53E3FB9A-7864-11EA-9A07-F19EFCA12A29&at_custom3=%40BBCBreaking&at_medium=custom7&at_custom1=%5Bpost+type%5D&at_campaign=64
Saturday, 21 March 2020
`No child abuse ring in Westminster`, says Jay
[UK Column News 26 February 2020]
"Well, non-news," begins Brian Gerrish. "Let`s start with some critical non-news at least as far as the BBC is concerned. And if you take a look at their website the one thing you can`t see anything about is, of course, the IICSA child abuse report. So in the last couple of days we`ve had information coming out from IICSA. It drifted across the BBC very, very briefly. It didn`t get any prominence and now as we can see from the BBC`s website this is a non-subject. It doesn`t really exist and it`s pointless looking to the BBC to protect children from abuse in UK."
Mike Robinson: "Just to echo that, the Today programme this morning, it got the last ten minutes of the programme. So this is a flaglship news programme ... on British media that begins at 6.00 a.m. in the morning - 3 hours of news in the morning - and the last ten minutes was that."
Brian Gerrish: "Yeah, Radio 4 at 10 o`clock last night was talking about coronavirus; it was talking about Egypt; it was talking about a variety of other topics without a mention. So the BBC, true to form, not interested in getting to the bottom of the abuse of children in UK. Of course, itself culpable, guilty of covering up the Jimmy Savile episode, BBC is not going to talk about institutional child abuse and child abuse in Westminster."
"So how`s the story progressed? Well some of the media have talked about it but what we`ve seen very, very clearly is that the whole emphasis has now moved across onto the Lib Dem peer Lord Steel. He`s implicated in as much as the evidence tends to indicate that he knew but he didn`t take the right action. He`s now stepped down because he said: `If I don`t step down then I`ve got both support and criticism within the party and I don`t want to cause internal problems, so I`m going to step down from the Lords and quietly retire.` But what can we see? Well the whole focus has now drifted across onto Lord Steel. We`re not talking about the perpetrators of the child abuse; we`re not talking about how that child abuse was covered up. But at least Sky News, in contrast to the BBC, did have something to say:"
"The IICSA said MPs including Smith and Sir Peter Morrison were `protected from prosecution.` The report said there was a culture of `failing to recognise abuse, turning a blind eye to it, covering up allegations and actively protecting high-profile offenders including politicians` within Westminster."
"It concluded that politicians valued reputation `far higher than the fact of the children involved`."
Brian Gerrish: "Now that last sentence there, Mike, says a lot about the quality of Britain`s politicians. People could say: `Well that was the situation as was`. What we say at the UK Column is that that is the situation today. It continues."
"But let`s see how the IICSA Inquiry has actually reported on this. And, of course, we need to bring in Baroness Jay and let`s have a look at some of the things that she said in her report."
"So this [is a] key one. `MPs including Smith and Peter Morrison were protected from prosecution` - Remember all the other political names that have been mentioned over recent years in relation to child abuse, well they`re not mentioned at all because this inquiry has been able to focus down on just one or two individuals as part of its downplaying of the whole process. But more on that in a minute."
"`There was a culture of failing to recognise abuse, turning a blind eye to it, covering up allegations and actively protecting high-profile offenders including politicians within Westminster.` That`s a pretty interesting statement. Think about what she`s saying there; not only was the abuse going on, but people turned a blind eye to it; they covered up allegations and they actively protected high-profile offenders. ... And in my mind that means that ... we had an orchestrated system for protecting people abusing children. We had the abusers and we had the protective system. That to me sounds very much like a child abuse ring."
"But let`s see what else she had to say: `IICSA heard evidence that senior police officers thwarted the investigation into Smith because the case was too political`. That sounds to me like serious criminal activity by the police in order to protect the abusers of children but it`s just one line in the report."
"`The evidence shows that.... his party made efforts to suppress these rumours rather than conduct a formal investigation.... The focus of attention remained `unswervingly on political consequences rather than the welfare of the child`."
"So this is being forced home that the political parties ...are more concerned about protecting their reputation than the children and of course this is the law on its head because the duty of those political parties, probably more than the average individual, is to protect the children."
"She goes on: `Peter Morrison was protected as a member of the establishment`. Well that`s pretty clear cut... and that is repeated several times in the report. So I`ve put that up just to emphasise the constant focus on these two. They`re the only thing that ...they talk about. And this statement is reported several times and the reputation one is reported several times."
"So here we are. `A consistent pattern emerged of failure to put the welfare of children above political status although we found no evidence of an organised network of paedophiles within government`. Well this is all good. But the report itself describes the actions of that very government paedophile network. There were active child abusers in Westminster protected by powerful political and establishment figures, plus it`s admitted that the CPS also protected them and the police helped to protect them. So, Mike, this is just a brilliant piece of whitewash; that you describe a paedophile ring operating in Westminster, and then you say `It wasn`t actually a paedophile ring`."
Mike Robinson: "Yes, but as well as that, if you look at the language `we find no evidence`, well , of course, if you don`t speak to some of the key witnesses then you`re not going to find any evidence."
Brian Gerrish: "We`re going to address that, and you`re absolutely right. But they`re also describing the evidence for the paedophile ring and then saying: `But it`s not a paedophile ring.` It is a deliberate act on common sense and people`s cognitive ability to deal with what`s going on. It`s very very clever."
"So let`s have a look. How did this whitewash get played out? Well, of course, the inquiry has been dragged on over time and as the delay has increased ... that has allowed key witnesses, such as Nick, to be taken off the scene. Many police officers who were involved ... said they believed the evidence. There were some inconsistencies, but we`re not going to hear from Nick again because he`s got 18 years in prison and of course IICSA`s not going to present any of his evidence. Key witnesses - this is your point - including abuse survivors and police whistleblowers themselves [were] denied the opportunity to give evidence. Melanie Shaw, one of the key ones here, she has not been in front of this inquiry, although this inquiry says it has produced the Nottingham Child Abuse report. That report is out but of course Melanie`s testimony is not part of it. John Wedger, another policeman - there are now a group of police who have come forward and talked about the cover-up of child abuse, including activity by senior politicians and the Home Office, and senior police officers; but those police have not been brought in front of the inquiry."
"John Wedger, as a significant witness, - I believe there`s about 60 pages of his evidence - he is not included in this part of Jay`s report on Westminster, even though his evidence specifically says that senior politicians in his day had been covering up the abuse of children."
Mike Robinson: "And, of course, there are other survivor groups out there that have refused to take part. It wasn`t that they weren`t invited, but they actually refused, because they understood exactly what type of inquiry this was. They were looking for a proper ... judge led, investigative inquiry rather than a cover-up. So they refused to take part."
Brian Gerrish: "Indeed. Well let`s carry on. Of course what was done, and is continuing to be done, is the division of the inquiry sessions into secret chambers where we have the ... live cameras turned off. We`ve... got the public excluded. Baroness Jay said herself that she was going to have special rules for dealing with the investigation into Westminster but the reasons for those rules never fully explained to the public. So on it goes."
"Well of course ... a complete ignoring... of all of the police investigations around Prime Minister Edward Heath. So we know that very brave senior police officer Mike Veal did that investigation into Edward Heath and said that he believed that, had he still been alive, he would have had to ... answer questions about the abuse of children. This doesn`t figure in any of Jay`s investigation into Westminster and she`s declared evidence for a protected Westminster political and establishment paedophile ring but then describes it as` not a ring`. This is just incredible. And then, of course, they then choose an easy scapegoat which is Lord Steel to take the blame and distract the media."
"So the abuse of the children, the suffering of those survivors, just completely dropped from public view whilst everybody starts to feel a little bit sorry for Steel. So we`ll just put her face back on the picture here."
"`There was and is no child abuse ring`. We disagree. We say that ring is still in post. It`s still exerting power over people trying to come forward and warn about the abuse of children. But we`ve got to give Baroness Jay credit because this is a masterpiece of a whitewash..."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6v7T815BDeY
"Well, non-news," begins Brian Gerrish. "Let`s start with some critical non-news at least as far as the BBC is concerned. And if you take a look at their website the one thing you can`t see anything about is, of course, the IICSA child abuse report. So in the last couple of days we`ve had information coming out from IICSA. It drifted across the BBC very, very briefly. It didn`t get any prominence and now as we can see from the BBC`s website this is a non-subject. It doesn`t really exist and it`s pointless looking to the BBC to protect children from abuse in UK."
Mike Robinson: "Just to echo that, the Today programme this morning, it got the last ten minutes of the programme. So this is a flaglship news programme ... on British media that begins at 6.00 a.m. in the morning - 3 hours of news in the morning - and the last ten minutes was that."
Brian Gerrish: "Yeah, Radio 4 at 10 o`clock last night was talking about coronavirus; it was talking about Egypt; it was talking about a variety of other topics without a mention. So the BBC, true to form, not interested in getting to the bottom of the abuse of children in UK. Of course, itself culpable, guilty of covering up the Jimmy Savile episode, BBC is not going to talk about institutional child abuse and child abuse in Westminster."
"So how`s the story progressed? Well some of the media have talked about it but what we`ve seen very, very clearly is that the whole emphasis has now moved across onto the Lib Dem peer Lord Steel. He`s implicated in as much as the evidence tends to indicate that he knew but he didn`t take the right action. He`s now stepped down because he said: `If I don`t step down then I`ve got both support and criticism within the party and I don`t want to cause internal problems, so I`m going to step down from the Lords and quietly retire.` But what can we see? Well the whole focus has now drifted across onto Lord Steel. We`re not talking about the perpetrators of the child abuse; we`re not talking about how that child abuse was covered up. But at least Sky News, in contrast to the BBC, did have something to say:"
"The IICSA said MPs including Smith and Sir Peter Morrison were `protected from prosecution.` The report said there was a culture of `failing to recognise abuse, turning a blind eye to it, covering up allegations and actively protecting high-profile offenders including politicians` within Westminster."
"It concluded that politicians valued reputation `far higher than the fact of the children involved`."
Brian Gerrish: "Now that last sentence there, Mike, says a lot about the quality of Britain`s politicians. People could say: `Well that was the situation as was`. What we say at the UK Column is that that is the situation today. It continues."
"But let`s see how the IICSA Inquiry has actually reported on this. And, of course, we need to bring in Baroness Jay and let`s have a look at some of the things that she said in her report."
"So this [is a] key one. `MPs including Smith and Peter Morrison were protected from prosecution` - Remember all the other political names that have been mentioned over recent years in relation to child abuse, well they`re not mentioned at all because this inquiry has been able to focus down on just one or two individuals as part of its downplaying of the whole process. But more on that in a minute."
"`There was a culture of failing to recognise abuse, turning a blind eye to it, covering up allegations and actively protecting high-profile offenders including politicians within Westminster.` That`s a pretty interesting statement. Think about what she`s saying there; not only was the abuse going on, but people turned a blind eye to it; they covered up allegations and they actively protected high-profile offenders. ... And in my mind that means that ... we had an orchestrated system for protecting people abusing children. We had the abusers and we had the protective system. That to me sounds very much like a child abuse ring."
"But let`s see what else she had to say: `IICSA heard evidence that senior police officers thwarted the investigation into Smith because the case was too political`. That sounds to me like serious criminal activity by the police in order to protect the abusers of children but it`s just one line in the report."
"`The evidence shows that.... his party made efforts to suppress these rumours rather than conduct a formal investigation.... The focus of attention remained `unswervingly on political consequences rather than the welfare of the child`."
"She goes on: `Peter Morrison was protected as a member of the establishment`. Well that`s pretty clear cut... and that is repeated several times in the report. So I`ve put that up just to emphasise the constant focus on these two. They`re the only thing that ...they talk about. And this statement is reported several times and the reputation one is reported several times."
"So here we are. `A consistent pattern emerged of failure to put the welfare of children above political status although we found no evidence of an organised network of paedophiles within government`. Well this is all good. But the report itself describes the actions of that very government paedophile network. There were active child abusers in Westminster protected by powerful political and establishment figures, plus it`s admitted that the CPS also protected them and the police helped to protect them. So, Mike, this is just a brilliant piece of whitewash; that you describe a paedophile ring operating in Westminster, and then you say `It wasn`t actually a paedophile ring`."
Mike Robinson: "Yes, but as well as that, if you look at the language `we find no evidence`, well , of course, if you don`t speak to some of the key witnesses then you`re not going to find any evidence."
Brian Gerrish: "We`re going to address that, and you`re absolutely right. But they`re also describing the evidence for the paedophile ring and then saying: `But it`s not a paedophile ring.` It is a deliberate act on common sense and people`s cognitive ability to deal with what`s going on. It`s very very clever."
"So let`s have a look. How did this whitewash get played out? Well, of course, the inquiry has been dragged on over time and as the delay has increased ... that has allowed key witnesses, such as Nick, to be taken off the scene. Many police officers who were involved ... said they believed the evidence. There were some inconsistencies, but we`re not going to hear from Nick again because he`s got 18 years in prison and of course IICSA`s not going to present any of his evidence. Key witnesses - this is your point - including abuse survivors and police whistleblowers themselves [were] denied the opportunity to give evidence. Melanie Shaw, one of the key ones here, she has not been in front of this inquiry, although this inquiry says it has produced the Nottingham Child Abuse report. That report is out but of course Melanie`s testimony is not part of it. John Wedger, another policeman - there are now a group of police who have come forward and talked about the cover-up of child abuse, including activity by senior politicians and the Home Office, and senior police officers; but those police have not been brought in front of the inquiry."
"John Wedger, as a significant witness, - I believe there`s about 60 pages of his evidence - he is not included in this part of Jay`s report on Westminster, even though his evidence specifically says that senior politicians in his day had been covering up the abuse of children."
Mike Robinson: "And, of course, there are other survivor groups out there that have refused to take part. It wasn`t that they weren`t invited, but they actually refused, because they understood exactly what type of inquiry this was. They were looking for a proper ... judge led, investigative inquiry rather than a cover-up. So they refused to take part."
Brian Gerrish: "Indeed. Well let`s carry on. Of course what was done, and is continuing to be done, is the division of the inquiry sessions into secret chambers where we have the ... live cameras turned off. We`ve... got the public excluded. Baroness Jay said herself that she was going to have special rules for dealing with the investigation into Westminster but the reasons for those rules never fully explained to the public. So on it goes."
"Well of course ... a complete ignoring... of all of the police investigations around Prime Minister Edward Heath. So we know that very brave senior police officer Mike Veal did that investigation into Edward Heath and said that he believed that, had he still been alive, he would have had to ... answer questions about the abuse of children. This doesn`t figure in any of Jay`s investigation into Westminster and she`s declared evidence for a protected Westminster political and establishment paedophile ring but then describes it as` not a ring`. This is just incredible. And then, of course, they then choose an easy scapegoat which is Lord Steel to take the blame and distract the media."
"So the abuse of the children, the suffering of those survivors, just completely dropped from public view whilst everybody starts to feel a little bit sorry for Steel. So we`ll just put her face back on the picture here."
"`There was and is no child abuse ring`. We disagree. We say that ring is still in post. It`s still exerting power over people trying to come forward and warn about the abuse of children. But we`ve got to give Baroness Jay credit because this is a masterpiece of a whitewash..."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6v7T815BDeY
Monday, 2 March 2020
Hate Incidents
The UK Column broadcast on 17 February 2020 with Brian Gerrish, David Scott and Mike Robinson (about 21 mins into the programme)
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Mike Robinson: "Now last week we were talking about queer theory, David. You mentioned the Highland Times. Well the Highland Times has been writing a bit more on this."
David Scott: "Yes, this is another article by Bruce Scott ... looking at the nature of Queer theory. So he writes:"
"They`re coming for our kids, the Highland Times has warned, and so I thought it might be worth taking a closer look at Scotland`s Queer theory inspired LGBT inclusive education. Queer theory/gender ideology and its application in schools can be summed up in an influential book published in 2009 called `Interrogating Heteronormativity in Primary Schools: the Work of the No Outsiders Project`, edited by Renee de Palma and Elizabeth Atkinson."
"And it says that Andrew Moffat contributed to this book. Now Andrew Moffat, he was the headmaster from Birmingham who led the charge to bring this sort of education into Birmingham schools which got all the push back from the Muslim, Christian and Jewish communities in Birmingham and was headline news and we reported on it at some length. and Dr Scott continues here."
"Its stated objectives were to understand the operation of `heteronormativity (heterosexual behaviour, lifestyle), its normalisation, and to develop means to challenge its normativity, in primary schools. It wanted to develop teaching practices within the classroom so it could carry these objectives out."
"Another more sinister aim of the project was, as the authors lamented, to address the omission in primary schools of sexuality, pleasure, bodies and desire which ordinarily, within educational settings with children is omitted (quite rightly in my opinion) to protect children..."
"An even darker aspect of No Outsiders lurks hidden in their manifesto for queering the classroom."
"The overt disdain for heteronormativity is revealed in discussions of a need for the rejection of heterosexuality and reproduction. They argue that there is a need to challenge reproductive futurism (human reproduction of children and its heterosexual nature) and that queering the classroom and human reproduction are at odds with each other."
"Indeed, the rational for teaching children at all is questioned, as queer existences or lifestyles are antagonistic to a reproductive future: i.e., as in heteronormativity, where the future, child and family are valued."
"In other words the notion of the family: a biological Mum and Dad, heterosexuality, commitment to heterosexual monogamy for one`s children and the future, all need to be sacrificed on the altar of Queer theory; the present alternative sexualities (LGBT/Queer sexualities), alternative lifestyles (e.g. open relationships/polyamory) Sex as only for pleasure or immediate gratification is the ideal of a queer Utopia."
"That`s the underlying philosophy that`s driving sex education in Scottish schools and it would appear in schools in Birmingham and other places in England as well."
Mike Robinson: "OK .... which brings us on to this article in Cambridgeshire Live. This is a so-called professor from Anglia Ruskin university, Patricia MacCormack, and the headline in Cambridgeshire Live was `The Only Solution for Climate Change is letting the Human Species go Extinct` ... but at the back of it David is the same Queer theory."
"Absolutely, yes. She`s launched a book, `Ahuman Manifesto`. The book argues that due to the damage done to other living creatures on Earth, we should start gradually phasing out reproduction, exactly the same ideology here, but rather than offering a bleak look at the future of humanity `it has generated discussion due to its joyful and optimistic tone, as it sets out a positive view for the future of Earth - without mankind`."
"So this is very very profoundly dangerous stuff."
Brian Gerrish: "We`re going to get rid of mankind, joyfully !"
David Scott: "Yes, and just a final slide here of the various organisations pushing this. We`ve got Stonewall; we`ve got the TIE campaign, Scotland. We`ve also got Mermaids. Here they`re encouraging children to think about gender being a spectrum and they`re not a boy or a girl but something in between. And just to point out that ... currently Starbucks are running a campaign to raise money for Mermaids, so I`m afraid, personally, I won`t be drinking in Starbucks."
Brian Gerrish wonders whether reporting on this topic is going to be made more difficult in future and refers to a case in the press recently about a former policeman who was visited by the homicide police for commenting on Twitter about transgender matters.
"Let`s have a look at the start of this BBC news - and this is from a couple of days ago - the headline is that Former [high ranking] policeman Harry Miller commented on some tweets and the next minute the police ... had visited his place of work in January last year. Somebody had made a complaint. He was never told who had actually made the complaint ... and then what [the police] said to him is that basically they wanted to check his thinking and they also said well you haven`t actually committed a crime but there has been a hate incident... They indicated that they had logged his name even though he was not guilty of committing any crime... [Mr Miller] believed that if he did not stop speaking and stop tweeting [about transgender matters] that the police were going to take action. So this became a freedom of speech issue."
"Let`s have a look at the Telegraph. `Police compared to Stasi and Gestapo by judge as he rules they interfered in freedom of speech by investigating `non crime` trans tweet.,, Former Police Officer Harry Miller said the police`s actions had a chilling effect on his right to free speech`. So we`re into very very dangerous territory here. This man did not commit any crime but nevertheless he gets the police at his door and as far as he`s concerned the police were threatening him that he needed to change and shut up or he would be in further trouble. So the reporting in the press, very interesting."
"Let`s have a look at what the judge said according to the mainstream press. The claimant`s tweets were lawful and ... there was not the slightest risk that he would commit a criminal offence by continuing to tweet. I find the combination of the police visiting the claimant`s place of work, and their subsequent statements in relation to the possibility of prosecution, were a disproportionate interference with the claimant`s right to freedom of expression because of their potential chilling effect...."
"So you`re led into a world that this is a very good judge and this man is standing up for free speech and the court case has gone quite well . Let`s follow it along because he said some more: `I conclude that the police`s actions led him reasonably to believe that he was being warned not to exercise his right to freedom of expression about transgender issues on pain of potential criminal prosecution`...."
"So we get a look into the mindset of Mr Miller. He was very worried that if he did anything more the police were going to be on his case and it appears that this judge is also very worried about his freedom of expression."
"So the judge then said... `In this country we have never had a Cheka, a Gestapo or a Stasi. We have never lived in an Orwellian society`. Well at that point we might have thought that the media in particular would have been very concerned about this case but it was fascinating to notice because of the style of reporting by Grimbsy Live here; because they more or less made this very damning comment into complete fun by putting up a main page on the internet, at least, with a big superimposed picture..."
"So that this very very serious event, impinging on freedom of speech, was made into a joke and Grimbsy Live did something else which I found very interesting because if you follow through the article it suddenly came up with this banner:"
"Now this is one of the key tweets that was involved in the case."
"Now remember that Mr Miller didn`t actually tweet this out himself: he simply commented, but Grimsby Live so paranoid that it felt it had to sort of put a firewall in front of the tweet itself."
"So this results in a court case When we follow through the court case... we start to see deeper and darker issues because the judge said `[I reject] a wider challenge to the lawfulness of the College of Police guidance [and] rule that it serves legitimate purposes and is not disproportionate`. Now what he`s talking about is the fact that the guidance defines a transgender hate incident as `any non-crime incident which is perceived by the victim or any other person to be motivated by a hostility or prejudice against a person who is transgender or perceived to be transgender`."
"The judge is saying very clearly that he completely stands up for that particular piece of guidance by the police and what`s more he said this: `The recording of non-crime hate incidents barely encroaches on freedom of expression, if it does so at all the aims of the guidance are `extremely important`."
"So having judged against the police action he reinforces the legitimacy of the College of Policing in creating `law` and recording and holding personal data for non crimes. David, it seems to me that this judge is giving a perfect example of the Orwellian future which he claims we`ve never lived in."
David Scott: "Yes. `War is peace. Freedom is slavery.` This is `Black is white`. This is exactly correct. Now we`ve seen this in Scotland... because of the same guidance being used as de facto legislation in Scotland. It`s called the Haters Campaign in Scotland. and if you say anything, tweet anything, write anything that anybody anywhere thinks might be offensive that can be a hate incident."
"This is nonsense. How can ... anybody possibly express themselves in public? It`s completely ridiculous. Now it was the Wee Flea blogger [who] made this completely ridiculous by reporting the `Police Scotland Haters Campaign` to Police Scotland as a hate incident... He was offended by it because of its negative references to Christianity; and, of course, they wouldn`t record it... because they decided that it was `all well`. But that`s not what the guidance says: It says if anybody, anywhere sees something as offensive then that becomes a hate incident. It`s about any of the protected groups. So the whole thing is insane, completely, unworkable and deeply Orwellian. Why could the judge not say that?"
Brian Gerrish: "Well I think we might ask some questions about the judge himself - we can`t do that today - but let`s come over to the College of Policing that produced the law that has now been approved by the judge. So, of course, they were crowing. So the two highlighted bits here: `The Honourable Mr Justice Julian Knowles ruled the mere recording of a non crime hate incident based on an individual`s speech is not an interference of their rights and if it was it is prescribed by law and done for two of the legitimate aims in article 10` and also because part of the challenge had been common law they crowed that that challenge at common law had been rejected. "
"So this was very, very dark once you got into the ruling by the judge. He wasn`t actually standing up for freedom of individuals and free speech; he was going somewhere down the middle and that`s a very dangerous line."
"But the Police College continued to crow. Here`s Bernie O`Reilly, Detective Chief Constable, Executive Director. He said that he was pleased the court had recognised the guidance on recording non-crime hate incidents was `both lawful and extremely important in protecting people. Our guidance is about protecting people because of who they are and we know this is an area where people may be reluctant to report things to us`."
"And he said `The College of Policing`s position is clear - we want everyone to feel able to express opinions as passionately as they wish without breaking the law. Hate incidents can be a precursor to these types of crimes and without recording them the police will begin to lose sight of what is happening in their communities - and potentially lose their confidence."
"So, is it law? We don`t yet know. He was also using Twitter himself to crow about the result."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVlInIYCyjw
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Mike Robinson: "Now last week we were talking about queer theory, David. You mentioned the Highland Times. Well the Highland Times has been writing a bit more on this."
David Scott: "Yes, this is another article by Bruce Scott ... looking at the nature of Queer theory. So he writes:"
"They`re coming for our kids, the Highland Times has warned, and so I thought it might be worth taking a closer look at Scotland`s Queer theory inspired LGBT inclusive education. Queer theory/gender ideology and its application in schools can be summed up in an influential book published in 2009 called `Interrogating Heteronormativity in Primary Schools: the Work of the No Outsiders Project`, edited by Renee de Palma and Elizabeth Atkinson."
"And it says that Andrew Moffat contributed to this book. Now Andrew Moffat, he was the headmaster from Birmingham who led the charge to bring this sort of education into Birmingham schools which got all the push back from the Muslim, Christian and Jewish communities in Birmingham and was headline news and we reported on it at some length. and Dr Scott continues here."
"Its stated objectives were to understand the operation of `heteronormativity (heterosexual behaviour, lifestyle), its normalisation, and to develop means to challenge its normativity, in primary schools. It wanted to develop teaching practices within the classroom so it could carry these objectives out."
"Another more sinister aim of the project was, as the authors lamented, to address the omission in primary schools of sexuality, pleasure, bodies and desire which ordinarily, within educational settings with children is omitted (quite rightly in my opinion) to protect children..."
"An even darker aspect of No Outsiders lurks hidden in their manifesto for queering the classroom."
"The overt disdain for heteronormativity is revealed in discussions of a need for the rejection of heterosexuality and reproduction. They argue that there is a need to challenge reproductive futurism (human reproduction of children and its heterosexual nature) and that queering the classroom and human reproduction are at odds with each other."
"Indeed, the rational for teaching children at all is questioned, as queer existences or lifestyles are antagonistic to a reproductive future: i.e., as in heteronormativity, where the future, child and family are valued."
"In other words the notion of the family: a biological Mum and Dad, heterosexuality, commitment to heterosexual monogamy for one`s children and the future, all need to be sacrificed on the altar of Queer theory; the present alternative sexualities (LGBT/Queer sexualities), alternative lifestyles (e.g. open relationships/polyamory) Sex as only for pleasure or immediate gratification is the ideal of a queer Utopia."
"That`s the underlying philosophy that`s driving sex education in Scottish schools and it would appear in schools in Birmingham and other places in England as well."
Mike Robinson: "OK .... which brings us on to this article in Cambridgeshire Live. This is a so-called professor from Anglia Ruskin university, Patricia MacCormack, and the headline in Cambridgeshire Live was `The Only Solution for Climate Change is letting the Human Species go Extinct` ... but at the back of it David is the same Queer theory."
"Absolutely, yes. She`s launched a book, `Ahuman Manifesto`. The book argues that due to the damage done to other living creatures on Earth, we should start gradually phasing out reproduction, exactly the same ideology here, but rather than offering a bleak look at the future of humanity `it has generated discussion due to its joyful and optimistic tone, as it sets out a positive view for the future of Earth - without mankind`."
"So this is very very profoundly dangerous stuff."
Brian Gerrish: "We`re going to get rid of mankind, joyfully !"
David Scott: "Yes, and just a final slide here of the various organisations pushing this. We`ve got Stonewall; we`ve got the TIE campaign, Scotland. We`ve also got Mermaids. Here they`re encouraging children to think about gender being a spectrum and they`re not a boy or a girl but something in between. And just to point out that ... currently Starbucks are running a campaign to raise money for Mermaids, so I`m afraid, personally, I won`t be drinking in Starbucks."
Brian Gerrish wonders whether reporting on this topic is going to be made more difficult in future and refers to a case in the press recently about a former policeman who was visited by the homicide police for commenting on Twitter about transgender matters.
"Let`s have a look at the Telegraph. `Police compared to Stasi and Gestapo by judge as he rules they interfered in freedom of speech by investigating `non crime` trans tweet.,, Former Police Officer Harry Miller said the police`s actions had a chilling effect on his right to free speech`. So we`re into very very dangerous territory here. This man did not commit any crime but nevertheless he gets the police at his door and as far as he`s concerned the police were threatening him that he needed to change and shut up or he would be in further trouble. So the reporting in the press, very interesting."
"Let`s have a look at what the judge said according to the mainstream press. The claimant`s tweets were lawful and ... there was not the slightest risk that he would commit a criminal offence by continuing to tweet. I find the combination of the police visiting the claimant`s place of work, and their subsequent statements in relation to the possibility of prosecution, were a disproportionate interference with the claimant`s right to freedom of expression because of their potential chilling effect...."
"So you`re led into a world that this is a very good judge and this man is standing up for free speech and the court case has gone quite well . Let`s follow it along because he said some more: `I conclude that the police`s actions led him reasonably to believe that he was being warned not to exercise his right to freedom of expression about transgender issues on pain of potential criminal prosecution`...."
"So we get a look into the mindset of Mr Miller. He was very worried that if he did anything more the police were going to be on his case and it appears that this judge is also very worried about his freedom of expression."
"So the judge then said... `In this country we have never had a Cheka, a Gestapo or a Stasi. We have never lived in an Orwellian society`. Well at that point we might have thought that the media in particular would have been very concerned about this case but it was fascinating to notice because of the style of reporting by Grimbsy Live here; because they more or less made this very damning comment into complete fun by putting up a main page on the internet, at least, with a big superimposed picture..."
"So that this very very serious event, impinging on freedom of speech, was made into a joke and Grimbsy Live did something else which I found very interesting because if you follow through the article it suddenly came up with this banner:"
"Now this is one of the key tweets that was involved in the case."
"Now remember that Mr Miller didn`t actually tweet this out himself: he simply commented, but Grimsby Live so paranoid that it felt it had to sort of put a firewall in front of the tweet itself."
"So this results in a court case When we follow through the court case... we start to see deeper and darker issues because the judge said `[I reject] a wider challenge to the lawfulness of the College of Police guidance [and] rule that it serves legitimate purposes and is not disproportionate`. Now what he`s talking about is the fact that the guidance defines a transgender hate incident as `any non-crime incident which is perceived by the victim or any other person to be motivated by a hostility or prejudice against a person who is transgender or perceived to be transgender`."
"The judge is saying very clearly that he completely stands up for that particular piece of guidance by the police and what`s more he said this: `The recording of non-crime hate incidents barely encroaches on freedom of expression, if it does so at all the aims of the guidance are `extremely important`."
"So having judged against the police action he reinforces the legitimacy of the College of Policing in creating `law` and recording and holding personal data for non crimes. David, it seems to me that this judge is giving a perfect example of the Orwellian future which he claims we`ve never lived in."
David Scott: "Yes. `War is peace. Freedom is slavery.` This is `Black is white`. This is exactly correct. Now we`ve seen this in Scotland... because of the same guidance being used as de facto legislation in Scotland. It`s called the Haters Campaign in Scotland. and if you say anything, tweet anything, write anything that anybody anywhere thinks might be offensive that can be a hate incident."
"This is nonsense. How can ... anybody possibly express themselves in public? It`s completely ridiculous. Now it was the Wee Flea blogger [who] made this completely ridiculous by reporting the `Police Scotland Haters Campaign` to Police Scotland as a hate incident... He was offended by it because of its negative references to Christianity; and, of course, they wouldn`t record it... because they decided that it was `all well`. But that`s not what the guidance says: It says if anybody, anywhere sees something as offensive then that becomes a hate incident. It`s about any of the protected groups. So the whole thing is insane, completely, unworkable and deeply Orwellian. Why could the judge not say that?"
Brian Gerrish: "Well I think we might ask some questions about the judge himself - we can`t do that today - but let`s come over to the College of Policing that produced the law that has now been approved by the judge. So, of course, they were crowing. So the two highlighted bits here: `The Honourable Mr Justice Julian Knowles ruled the mere recording of a non crime hate incident based on an individual`s speech is not an interference of their rights and if it was it is prescribed by law and done for two of the legitimate aims in article 10` and also because part of the challenge had been common law they crowed that that challenge at common law had been rejected. "
"So this was very, very dark once you got into the ruling by the judge. He wasn`t actually standing up for freedom of individuals and free speech; he was going somewhere down the middle and that`s a very dangerous line."
"But the Police College continued to crow. Here`s Bernie O`Reilly, Detective Chief Constable, Executive Director. He said that he was pleased the court had recognised the guidance on recording non-crime hate incidents was `both lawful and extremely important in protecting people. Our guidance is about protecting people because of who they are and we know this is an area where people may be reluctant to report things to us`."
"And he said `The College of Policing`s position is clear - we want everyone to feel able to express opinions as passionately as they wish without breaking the law. Hate incidents can be a precursor to these types of crimes and without recording them the police will begin to lose sight of what is happening in their communities - and potentially lose their confidence."
"So, is it law? We don`t yet know. He was also using Twitter himself to crow about the result."
"So there was no other comment about ... Mr Miller or the wider concerns about the incident itself; it simply was crowing praise for the fact that the court had said that their policy stood but we couldn`t help note that Mr O`Reilly was also promoting LGBT and therefore presumably transgender material himself. So one says: `Is the College of Policing neutral on this particular subject?`"
"And if you want to know what that college is, well it`s not quite what you think. It was established in 2012 as a professional body for the police. It intends to be a not-for-profit membership organisation and they are looking to achieve chartered status although they haven`t achieved that: `We will have a mandate to set standards.` Now if they haven`t got a mandate to set standards at the moment, how can they set policy which has now been labelled as law? I don`t know. `We also have a remit to set standards on police service training and development and as a professional body for policing. The government`s intention is for the College of Policing to operate independently of the Home Office` ... It`s a private limited company and if you go online you can have a look at the details. `We`ve got thirty three... officers` who sit on this company and now can make, apparently, law, but they are independent of the Home Office, Mike."
"Well, until you look at the accounts where you suddenly find that they`re funded predominantly from the Home Office.,, They`re funding a private limited company making law that allows [the police] to record non-crimes..."
Monday, 27 January 2020
No assurance in the `Assurance Report`
"Well of course the other thing we ought to remind people of - and I`m sorry because this is not a particularly pleasant topic - but we have a prime minister, Boris Johnston who describes expenditure investigating child abuse as money that has been spaffed. That`s his language for ejaculated up the wall. This is the standard of Britain`s prime minister; and let`s immediately bring in the BBC because the BBC crowing yesterday that the report`s come out about the failure of Manchester city council and other authorities including greater Manchester police to protect children."
"The BBC particularly crowing because the report starts off itself by effectively congratulating the BBC on its investigations into child abuse. But of course this is the same BBC that covered up the activities of Jimmy Savile when he was doing his dirty deeds, paid by the BBC. But let`s have a look through this report; and UK Column is going to say this is not all it seems. So first of all, credit where it`s due.

"And the Telegraph here in its article with a picture of Maggie Oliver. And we`re going to say that it`s not the BBC that people should be congratulating; it`s very brave whistleblowers - these whistleblowers in particular - Maggie Oliver and John Wedger and several others, who have finally started to force the lid off child abuse in UK."
"But of course the Telegraph headline here is getting into the political agenda; because it`s an `Asian grooming gang free to roam the streets` and indeed many of the...men in this case were... Asian, but the people running the child protection system and failing in their duty, of course, were not Asian. So there`s many questions to be asked."
"But let`s just get a feel for this case... these points are not being reported by the BBC or in any press outlet. So this is from Manchester City Council; this is the sort of thing you see on their website when you go and have a look about what you should do about child abuse and this is the old line, Mike. `Tell us about someone being abused or neglected. Trust us. If you`ve got any information come to us and tell us about what has happened to you. We will protect you. We will ensure there`s anonymity. We will take action.` But, of course, what has emerged in this report and in many other places elsewhere is that once information is brought forward, either nothing happens or those people, the victims, are not protected."
"`An Assurance review of Operation Augusta`. Now Operation Augusta was Greater Manchester`s police investigation into abuse of youngsters, particularly by Asian men, We can see here that the authors are Malcolm Newsam and Gary Ridgway ...There`s the embargo on the bottom... But I`m going to say just remember those two names. When you get inside, and this is not mentioned at all by the so-called mainstream press, we get a huge caveat. And what does that caveat say? Well, effectively, it says this:"
"`The report is independent.` [laughter] We always get a sense, a reassurance, Mike, when we see that `this report is independent`. We`ll be seeing exactly how independent it is in a minute."
"There is no check of accuracy or completeness of information provided."
"Oh !"
Brian Gerrish goes on in discussion with Mike Robinson to say that he had read this with great interest: "Because a report has been produced which has now been blasted out over the media in the UK but apparently there wasn`t any checks of accuracy or completeness of information provided." He wonders what would have happened in his professional life if had he followed these same standards.
Moving forward, "And then it says: `For the avoidance of doubt, no responsibility or liability is or will be accepted by Imprana Ltd and GKR Partnership in relation to the release of this report and any such liability is expressly disclaimed.` So somebody there in a big hurry to make sure that if a few questions are asked - `Whew ! It`s nothing to do with us`."
"So where is the responsibility there?"
"Well we`re going to sort of ask about that. So let`s have a look at the assurance team. This is an interesting expression: it`s an assurance report. Who are they assuring? They`re certainly not assuring the victims of abuse, the survivors of abuse - it gets very woolly."
"But here`s Malcolm Newsam: `experienced child care expert with extensive experience of providing diagnostics, interventions and improvement support to a range of councils across the country. In October 2014 the Secretary of State for Education appointed him as the Commissioner for Children`s Social Care in Rotherham`...I`m not going to continue going on through it," Brian Gerrish says; but he emphasises that this is a `government man`. "There`s no question of it. He has been brought in, supposedly, to improve failing authorities in ... [child protection] but a huge amount of controversy around him and he`s supported here by a police officer, a former police officer, Gary Ridgway who has been praised for achieving good results in investigating child sexual exploitation. So I`m not going to challenge Mr Ridgway at all but Malcolm Newsam we say: who is this man? And we can start to ask a key question: how independent is he in order to investigate the government`s own system for protecting children?"
"Well I went and had a little look at him at Imprana Ltd and GKR Partnerships... Here`s GKR Partners Ltd and we`ve got a Gareth Leslie Johnson . Don`t know much about that name but I was intrigued that it`s a risk management consultancy. .. So who`s worried about the amount of risk? Is that the team that produced the report? Are they worried about their own risk? Or is this Greater Manchester Council and the police, worried about their risk and what`s printed in the report? And if you go to the other side, Imprana Ltd... there happens to be a Malcolm Newsam involved, and I`m going to guess that ... this is the same man, same name, same company. But let`s have a look at this individual."
"Well we`re going back to 2011. And here`s the Daily Mail. `The temps paid up to £1,250 a day by council that`s slashing hundreds of jobs.` So the headline is absolutely right, Kent County Council getting rid of people hand over fist, putting together a plan to get rid of about 300 people altogether and they were paying a number of consultants, including the man we`re interested in, one thousand two hundred and fifty pounds a day."
"The most highly-paid temp is families and care director Malcolm Newsam who costs the council £1,250 a day, followed by Alistair Pettigrew....` So this is a very interesting man ... and we`ve got another report here from the Peterborough Telegraph:"
"`Experienced manager Malcolm Newsam could earn a salary of more than £230,000 over the 12 months that he is expected to stay on as interim director of children`s services at the council if the appointment is approved`."
"`Mr Newsam has a proven track record of turning around failing children`s services departments and his appointment has been proposed after the council was slammed by Ofsted in September for failing to safeguard vulnerable children.`"
"Now, is a man who`s in a job like that as a result of a hand in government, is he... is he going to criticise the government? Possibly, I don`t know. But it seems interesting. He`s a proven track record of turning around failing children`s services. So that`s good. And there`s a consultancy firm mentioned there, MCBN Management Consultancy and the day-rate there was £1,045. So he hit the headlines here after this amount of money was being paid to him, and then the council explained ... that they had a poor Ofsted report but they complemented him. They said he had been very open and transparent in his way of working and he`s helped us restore public confidence in the council. So that`s good praise and we`ll put that up on screen to be fair, and we`ll highlight that. He`s been very open and transparent..."
"So let`s have a look at this one. This is Community Care, and they`re talking about `turmoil for Northamptonshire children`s services as DfE appointed commissioner quits."
"Now this is where it gets interesting, Mike, because this is Mr Newsam again. He seemed to disappear without anybody really knowing why... but there was interest in this man because he`d come under fire from Northamptonshire councillors because of his `lack of visibility and accountability.`"
"So which is it?" asks Mike Robinson. "Is he open and transparent? Or has he got a lack of visibility and accountability?"
Brian Gerrish: "Or does he go whichever way the wind blows and wherever the money comes from? So the DfE did not reply to questions as to the reason for Newsam`s recent exit but a spokesperson said: `we`re making good progress with the creation of a new Children`s Services trust and are grateful to Malcolm Newsam for his role in transforming these services. We will be appointing a new commissioner before Malcolm leaves to finish this crucial work`."
"Now this is a little clue to what I believe is really going on because this man is a change agent. He`s changing council services for children into a trust and my personal opinion is as these trusts appear actually the accountability declines and the transparency declines."
Mike Robinson: "As has happened with the NHS."
"As has happened with the NHS. Privatization comes in. You don`t know what you`re dealing with. So we get that very early hook that maybe something special is happening."
"Let `s have a look at the report. So I`ve entitled this one `Multi-Disciplinary Teams... we`re all in it together.` But look at what the report actually says: `The team will report directly to the Deputy Mayor in relation to progress and outcomes. The Deputy Mayor has invited Joanne Roney, Chief Exectuve of Manchester City Council and lead GMCA Chief Executive for Children, Jim Taylor, Chief Executive of Salford City Council and a former Director of Children`s Services and Debbie Ford, Assistant Chief Constable, GMP, to join her in providing governance and oversight of the exercise in the steering group`."
"So this is the team investigating itself, Mike. We haven`t got a separate, secure investigation going on where the evidence is being carefully put to one side. What we`ve got is a gaggle of people working through their own mistakes: but `don`t worry because everything is independent`.
"So here we are: `We `assure` the public we`ve investigated ourselves fully ... "
"`Throughout our review we have shared our findings with Greater Manchester Police and Manchester City Council. Greater Manchester Police has confirmed the following additional information` [and it`s a love affair. They`re all loving each other, swapping information, working in collaboration, in order to get to the bottom of what they failed to do as a multidisiplinary team. It could go straight from here on to Yes Minister or the Simpsons..."
"So let`s carry on, because of course the report does produce some very good information, in that it says in a lot of places and a lot of detail that a great number of children ages 12 up to 16, 17 were horrifically abused, prostituted. I`m not going to describe what was done to these children, but look at what it says at 6.82:"
"`We also cannot offer assurance that the risks the identified adults presented to children were appropriately dealt with by either Greater Manchester Police or Manchester City Council.` But all the evidence they uncover in the report has already been shared with the people who failed..."
"7.14 `Although there was significant information held by both Manchester City Council and Greater Manchester Police on individuals who potentially posed a risk to children, we can offer no assurance that appropriate action was taken to address the risks they presented to children`. This theme is repeated through the report, and it`s very clear they knew the abuse was going on . The City Council did nothing. The police closed down an investigation where they were starting to do something, and the multidisciplinary child protection team failed at every level ... or we had malfeasance in public office where they turned a blind eye to crime`."
Mike Robinson: "So we`ve now seen the same patterns in Nottingham, in Rotherham, Rochdale and all these other places in the Midlands and the north of England and yet we`re still getting reports like this and no lessons have been learned, it seems."
"No lessons have been learned, except we can learn the lesson that if you follow it through the pattern of cover-up, the failure, is always the same. The information is there; the child protection teams in the Council don`t do their job; the police don`t do their job; the coroners don`t do their jobs. Of course in general the politicians don`t do their job. Andy Burnham stepped in at this point but the pattern is that politicians will not get involved. The Home Office will not get involved. The Prime Minister says: `Well there`s no abuse going on, it`s just money spaffed up the wall`."
Mike Robinson: "But there is a common theme through all of this and that is Common Purpose."
Brian Gerrish: "Common Purpose, the integration of the authorities into a leadership team where transparency goes out the window. I think we`re going to find deeper Common Purpose connections, but we`ll keep our viewers informed of that."
"Let`s have a look at this, page 18: `Out of the 25 cases within our sample, we have concluded that there was a significant probability that 16 children were being sexually exploited and we cannot offer any assurance that this was appropriately addressed by either Greater Manchester Police or the responsible local authority. In respect of the remaining nine children, we have concluded that given the insufficient available information, we cannot form a view as to whether the children had experienced sexual exploitation or whether these concerns were appropriately addressed by either Greater Manchester Police or Manchester City Council or the relevant local authority`..."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4tud9JLclk
Tuesday, 21 January 2020
Free speech for some
Brian Gerrish informed viewers that he was going to be taking a swipe at the BBC. He began by saying: "I couldn`t help but notice `Election explained, What to check for on climate change`. So that`s second from the left on the top of your screen there. If you clicked on that image up came this, which to my mind is a children`s image. Everything about it is probably attractive to two, three, four year old children, but this is now for adults in UK."
"Meanwhile, as the UK Column covers some of the most dangerous stuff going on, this is the childish dross from the BBC`. I have to use that word again, Mike ... "
"But serious things here: the BBC crowing that a High Court judge has ruled in favour of permanently banning protests outside the Birmingham school where parents were complaining that their children were actually being sexualised at too young an age."
"Now what did the BBC do? Of course it ran this story in a completely biased way, that any parent complaining of the content of the sex education, was actually homophobic, and as a result, I believe,... we`ve now seen the school successfully go to court for the protests to be banned."
"And, of course, if these protests can be banned, ... any protest anywhere in UK can now be banned by the High Court."
"Except for Extinction Rebellion," Mike Robinson reminded Brian Gerrish.
"Well I`m going to come on to that in a minute, Mike. But just have a look at the sort of thing the BBC put out. There`s a big focus here on West Midlands Mayor, Andy Street. He said the protests are clearly homophobic, against LGBT teaching at the primary school and it`s got to stop. Well, of course, that`s not the case. The parents, who were Christian, Muslim and indeed Jewish, were protesting that their children were being overtly sexualised at too young an age which is something completely different."
"But if you`re not aware of the definition we now have for homophobia here it is: `it`s fear, hatred, discomfort with, or mistrust of people who are lesbian, gay or bisexual... `That definition has absolutely nothing to do with the actual protest by the parents. So the BBC can be very proud because, essentially, they have now helped the British State take a major step in silencing free speech. And, of course, the other thing this relates to is the fact that the State wants to claim it is the parent of your child, or your children."
Mike Robinson: "Absolutely. But if you`re running a school and there`s a potential for protest, you don`t need to worry because there`s some really excellent advice available from the Department for Education ...I`m being somewhat sarcastic when I use the word `excellent`."
Brian Gerrish continued: "Let`s have a look to see what Gov.uk is saying: ... "
"Primary school disruption over LGBT teaching/relationships education. And they`re saying that `relationships education will be compulsory for all primary school aged pupils from September 2020. In addition relationships and sex education will be compulsory for all secondary pupils and health education will be compulsory for all pupils. They`re saying that some organisations are opposed to the introduction of these subjects, or to some of the expected content set out in the statutory guidance for the subjects, and have been campaigning nationally against the subjects and organising locally to encourage parents to influence their schools’ teaching. The majority of the objections relate to the teaching of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) content, particularly in primary schools."
"And then we come on to point 3 which is all about intelligence sharing and support available. And they say: `It is important that you pass on intel to DfE about disquiet in your local area and signs that this might be building towards disruptive activity. DfE can better support local authorities if there is a real time picture of issues in local areas and patterns of activities... You should seek further support from DfE making clear you are asking for support, not just passing on intel (as above) and an official will be in touch quickly to discuss options.`,.."
"And so the language here building is quite spectacular and your point earlier, which is...`military`."

Brian Gerrish then contrasted the immense overreaction at the Birmingham school with what the Department for Education`s Countering Extremism team did when UK Column provided them with evidence of extremism on 9th October 2019. They had provided evidence that Extinction Rebellion was not only carrying out criminal activity, it was recruiting school age children, using school premises to train them for that criminal activity.
"We`ve had back from them absolute silence ... So we provided documents for Extinction Rebellion where they were calling for people to break the law; we provided documents showing Extinction Rebellion training the people in primary schools ... and using those Department for Education facilities. We`ve provided BBC documentation where the BBC was saying it was concerned; and we`ve provided the excellent analysis by a former head of SO15, the counter terrorism force within the MET. And the result from the Department for Education was silence."
"So we can call up all these systems to suppress parents who dare challenge what their children are being taught in school; but if you give the Department for Education ... factual evidence of criminal activity by Extinction Rebellion, they don`t want to know."
"What does that suggest?"
"It suggests that Extinction Rebellion represents government policy."
"Indeed."
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Globetrotting Greta, now telling the global elites about climate change at Davos, a message they seem more than willing to accommodate.
Sunday, 5 January 2020
The drivers of climate change
Will there be global warming as a result of increasing CO2 in the atmosphere and the burning of fossil fuels? Or will there be global cooling instead because of the greater effects of the grand solar minimum? Indications are that the sun`s activity is an important factor.
"Is it Man or Something Else? The point to be noted is that the frequency and intensity of sunspot activity has proven profound influence on Earth weather, atmosphere, ocean temperature, Gulf Stream flows and more. It is also notable that the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Control dismisses such solar influence as not significant. That is a huge mistake by all serious evidence.
While governments and the UN have funnelled billions of dollars to computer modelers to create various models of CO2 and other greenhouse gases since the 1970s, far too little attention has been given to the effect of our sun on earth climate. At a minimum, in the interest of science, if not survival, we need to remedy this."
https://www.whatsorb.com/news/global-warming-by-co2-or-cooling-by-a-grand-solar-minimum?
Mike Robinson and Brian Gerrish discuss this issue on UK Column: "So the solar impact is understood within the science community but it`s never mentioned by the mainstream press or by the people who are pushing the climate emergency story."
Mike Robinson goes on: "So just so we understand what the situation is at the moment, let`s head over to spaceweather.com and here we discover ... the solar minimum is becoming very deep indeed ...it is set for a Space Age record for spotlessness ... So far in 2019 the sun has been without sunspots for more than 271 days, including the last 34 days in a row. No other year has had as many blank suns."
Viewers are led to understand that a solar minimum is a normal part of the eleven year sunspot cycle.
Mike Robinson then adds: "The climate emergency narrative is a misrepresentation of what is going on and only tells a part of the story and is really misrepresenting man`s influence on climate; and if it`s not taking solar activity into account whatsoever, which it isn`t, then we`re not getting an honest appraisal of the situation and, therefore, political policies are being based on incorrect information."
Brian Gerrish: "Well we want to continue today on our exposé of Extinction Rebellion and for several months UK Column has been trying to get the Department for Education to react to evidence that we`ve put forward showing that Extinction Rebellion is a self-declared criminal organisation. It`s involved in extremism; it`s involving young children - children of school age - in that process. It`s using school facilities to run its training exercises."
"But let`s just have a recap on what we`ve shown you so far. This was the important document that we came across. Extremism Rebellion: a review of ideology and tactics. Now this is by Policy Exchange. The key gentleman who`s written this is Richard Walton, former head of the MET`s counter-terrorism unit, SO15. He had some very strong words to say about Extinction Rebellion in a very detailed analysis document; and this is just part of it."
"The `civil resistance model` they espouse is intended to achieve mass protest accompanied by law-breaking - leading eventually to the breakdown of democracy and the state. Obscured from public view, these objectives mark Extinction Rebellion`s campaign out as an extremist one that seeks to break down the established civil order and liberal democracy in the UK."
"Now this is not just a sheet of paper: this is an investigative report which this gentleman and his colleague, Tom Wilson, have put out. You can find it very easily on the internet. I encourage people to go and read it. This is not an academic writer: this is a man who has been in the job with the MET police."
"So let`s follow on from there. What sort of information came forward in this document? Well there was background to Extinction Rebellion. Two people were mentioned in particular: George Barda and Gail Bradbrook with a Compassionate Revolution; and that got going into Extinction Rebellion [with Roger Hallam]. But they also helped to form Rising Up - this was another mass protest movement... And then key activists from Earth First, Occupy, Plane Stupid, Radical Think Tank and Reclaim the Power. These are all spin-off units which are clearly out to cause trouble in the country and detailed in this analysis by the two gentlemen I`ve mentioned. And we`ll also add in there that Occupy Wall Street was part of this..."
"So, what else did we show? Well, of course, we can have a look at money and it`s quite clear that Extinction Rebellion is able to call upon huge sums of money. This was going back to October [2018] where a mere £633,000 was already in the kitty. And we can say for a fact that Extinction Rebellion is boasting to people who break the law - and are then subsequently fined - `well, not to worry because we can cover your fines for you`. So a lot of money is coming into this organisation and it`s very interesting to see that behind it we`ve got yet more strange international vehicles, [the lady from] Gorilla Foundation just one of the people involved. We`re not saying this lady has done anything wrong but you can ask what she is really doing and it goes through to a global sisterhood of national grassroots campaigning organisations. So this is not just one organisation in UK. This is spreading out. We can see that, certainly, it`s got a path throughout Europe. But also we can see that it`s got a global scale to it."
"So armed with this information we decided to tackle the Department for Education which boasts it has a counter extremism unit to protect, principally, schoolchildren."
"Let`s have a look at that."
"This is where you would go: Educate.AgainstHate is the website and on it you can find, very clearly, Department for Education Counter Extremism helpline which, of course, we called. And what that led to is ... they did not want to see the evidence. They did take it, in the end - they were forced to - but they have ignored what has been given to them and latterly it`s been spun into an election issue. So this is pretty interesting, Mike, that we`ve got a unit within the Department for Education which the Department for Education media team did not know existed until I told them, but when you tell it, and provide evidence of extremism, they don`t want to know."
Mike Robinson. "But when you say it was spun into an election issue, what you mean is that, when there`s an election, there`s an excuse for not providing any information."
"Indeed. We`re going to have a look at that because it`s incredible.
Let`s have a look at how much work it`s taken to deal with the British government`s Counter Extremism Unit protecting schoolchildren. So this is a list of emails that have gone back and forth between the UK Column and the unit, and also the Department for Education press team and despite providing documentary evidence of Extinction Rebellion`s self-declared criminal activity, documentary evidence of them using school facilities, the excellent SO15 reports, BBC evidence of them involving young people in criminal activity, this is the email exchange and the ultimate result is they don`t want to know."
"So when you call this number and think that you`re going to make a report and you`ll be treated sympathetically, and action will be taken, Mike, nothing happens."
"So let`s have a look at the initial responses. So this is one of the early replies from the Department for Education. I`m calling this Fob Off No 1 ...what comes back is a complete sidestep because the Department for Education spokesperson ... said:"
"We share the passion young people and others have for tackling climate change. We are recognised at home and abroad for our world-leading action, as the first major economy to legislate for net zero emissions and as nominated hosts for next year`s crucial climate talks that will help us shape the climate agenda; and, just today, we have helped to secure enough clean energy to power seven million homes."
Mike Robinson: "But that sounds like a ... party political statement. .. coming from the civil service."
"Mike, this is absolutely a party political statement; and then, of course, they have sidestepped why I contacted them asking for their policy on an extremist organisation called Extinction Rebellion. They give me a party political... response. So the evidence is ignored and it`s replaced with the government line on climate change which we`ve already shown in the news today is of course a major line and the policy that`s going to be forced through."
"So bring it up to date, and to answer your question, we got Fob Off No 2 a few days ago. It was 6 December 2019, and what do they say here?"
"You received an initial response from the Department of Education government spokesperson on 07.10.2019 in relation to the concerns you raised about Extinction Rebellion and their impact on the actions of children and young people. (I think they`re referring to that email I`ve just covered, but the dates don`t tie up.)
According to Government policy during the pre-election period, correspondence must not contain any content that could be perceived to be political. Therefore, the arguments raised in your letter cannot be fully addressed during this period."
"So what this lady, Sophie Taylor, the deputy director for the Department for Education is saying is: `well, while UK has an election all extremist matters are on hold. We`re not going to protect anybody`. So that was Fob Off number two. It was spun into a false election issue."
"Please note the responsibility for making assessments of groups of possible extremist concerns lies with the Home Office. We would recommend that you direct your query to them following the General Election."
"So what sort of material does this lady produce? "
Within the video there are some very young children pushing forward XR`s message. Elsewhere Brian Gerrish points out that mental health issues and depression, in particular, is rising in young people in response to the message that they have `no future.` However, as Brian Gerrish summarises:
"Extinction Rebellion is a self-confessed criminal organisation identified by a former head of MET Police Counter Terrorist Command SO15 as `an extremist one that seeks to break down the established civil order and liberal democracy in the UK`... XR is using Department of Education schools to recruit and train young people ... it is grooming and exploiting young children for its criminal aims..."
"And what is the reaction from the Department of Education? Well they`re refusing to do anything about it. We`ve got to ask the question: why? I`ll answer it and perhaps we can exchange a little bit on this Mike, but if we say `what is going on here?` there can only be one answer: and that is that Extinction Rebellion and its extremism and its criminal activity is British state approved because it is driving the climate change agenda that the government wants to see in order to get those carbon taxes in... "
"So extremism, criminal activity, is bad in Britain unless you are using it to carry out British government policy, in which case it`s all OK."
Mike Robinson: "And, of course, it`s not just the fact that it`s driving the climate change policy which the British government says it`s behind, but it`s also driving the constitutional change policy which the government is also behind, because as you all have heard in that little video they`re demanding `we want a say; we must have a say; and of course they have a say through the political process at the moment but what they want is citizens` assemblies ... a complete sweeping away of the form of governance which we have at the moment to be replaced by something else - a form of participatory democracy which probably doesn`t bear too much resemblance to what most people understand by the term `participatory democracy`."
Brian Gerrish: "And at the bottom we`ve got this false grassroots movement at the lower level. At the higher level we`ve got Nigel Farage now, of course, calling effectively for constitutional change."
"It`s just a remarkable coincidence !"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwEpJDZj2k8
[UK Column 18 December 2019]
"Is it Man or Something Else? The point to be noted is that the frequency and intensity of sunspot activity has proven profound influence on Earth weather, atmosphere, ocean temperature, Gulf Stream flows and more. It is also notable that the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Control dismisses such solar influence as not significant. That is a huge mistake by all serious evidence.
While governments and the UN have funnelled billions of dollars to computer modelers to create various models of CO2 and other greenhouse gases since the 1970s, far too little attention has been given to the effect of our sun on earth climate. At a minimum, in the interest of science, if not survival, we need to remedy this."
https://www.whatsorb.com/news/global-warming-by-co2-or-cooling-by-a-grand-solar-minimum?
Mike Robinson and Brian Gerrish discuss this issue on UK Column: "So the solar impact is understood within the science community but it`s never mentioned by the mainstream press or by the people who are pushing the climate emergency story."
Mike Robinson goes on: "So just so we understand what the situation is at the moment, let`s head over to spaceweather.com and here we discover ... the solar minimum is becoming very deep indeed ...it is set for a Space Age record for spotlessness ... So far in 2019 the sun has been without sunspots for more than 271 days, including the last 34 days in a row. No other year has had as many blank suns."
Viewers are led to understand that a solar minimum is a normal part of the eleven year sunspot cycle.
Mike Robinson then adds: "The climate emergency narrative is a misrepresentation of what is going on and only tells a part of the story and is really misrepresenting man`s influence on climate; and if it`s not taking solar activity into account whatsoever, which it isn`t, then we`re not getting an honest appraisal of the situation and, therefore, political policies are being based on incorrect information."
Brian Gerrish: "Well we want to continue today on our exposé of Extinction Rebellion and for several months UK Column has been trying to get the Department for Education to react to evidence that we`ve put forward showing that Extinction Rebellion is a self-declared criminal organisation. It`s involved in extremism; it`s involving young children - children of school age - in that process. It`s using school facilities to run its training exercises."
"But let`s just have a recap on what we`ve shown you so far. This was the important document that we came across. Extremism Rebellion: a review of ideology and tactics. Now this is by Policy Exchange. The key gentleman who`s written this is Richard Walton, former head of the MET`s counter-terrorism unit, SO15. He had some very strong words to say about Extinction Rebellion in a very detailed analysis document; and this is just part of it."
"The `civil resistance model` they espouse is intended to achieve mass protest accompanied by law-breaking - leading eventually to the breakdown of democracy and the state. Obscured from public view, these objectives mark Extinction Rebellion`s campaign out as an extremist one that seeks to break down the established civil order and liberal democracy in the UK."
"Now this is not just a sheet of paper: this is an investigative report which this gentleman and his colleague, Tom Wilson, have put out. You can find it very easily on the internet. I encourage people to go and read it. This is not an academic writer: this is a man who has been in the job with the MET police."
"So let`s follow on from there. What sort of information came forward in this document? Well there was background to Extinction Rebellion. Two people were mentioned in particular: George Barda and Gail Bradbrook with a Compassionate Revolution; and that got going into Extinction Rebellion [with Roger Hallam]. But they also helped to form Rising Up - this was another mass protest movement... And then key activists from Earth First, Occupy, Plane Stupid, Radical Think Tank and Reclaim the Power. These are all spin-off units which are clearly out to cause trouble in the country and detailed in this analysis by the two gentlemen I`ve mentioned. And we`ll also add in there that Occupy Wall Street was part of this..."
"So, what else did we show? Well, of course, we can have a look at money and it`s quite clear that Extinction Rebellion is able to call upon huge sums of money. This was going back to October [2018] where a mere £633,000 was already in the kitty. And we can say for a fact that Extinction Rebellion is boasting to people who break the law - and are then subsequently fined - `well, not to worry because we can cover your fines for you`. So a lot of money is coming into this organisation and it`s very interesting to see that behind it we`ve got yet more strange international vehicles, [the lady from] Gorilla Foundation just one of the people involved. We`re not saying this lady has done anything wrong but you can ask what she is really doing and it goes through to a global sisterhood of national grassroots campaigning organisations. So this is not just one organisation in UK. This is spreading out. We can see that, certainly, it`s got a path throughout Europe. But also we can see that it`s got a global scale to it."
"So armed with this information we decided to tackle the Department for Education which boasts it has a counter extremism unit to protect, principally, schoolchildren."
"Let`s have a look at that."
"This is where you would go: Educate.AgainstHate is the website and on it you can find, very clearly, Department for Education Counter Extremism helpline which, of course, we called. And what that led to is ... they did not want to see the evidence. They did take it, in the end - they were forced to - but they have ignored what has been given to them and latterly it`s been spun into an election issue. So this is pretty interesting, Mike, that we`ve got a unit within the Department for Education which the Department for Education media team did not know existed until I told them, but when you tell it, and provide evidence of extremism, they don`t want to know."
Mike Robinson. "But when you say it was spun into an election issue, what you mean is that, when there`s an election, there`s an excuse for not providing any information."
"Indeed. We`re going to have a look at that because it`s incredible.
Let`s have a look at how much work it`s taken to deal with the British government`s Counter Extremism Unit protecting schoolchildren. So this is a list of emails that have gone back and forth between the UK Column and the unit, and also the Department for Education press team and despite providing documentary evidence of Extinction Rebellion`s self-declared criminal activity, documentary evidence of them using school facilities, the excellent SO15 reports, BBC evidence of them involving young people in criminal activity, this is the email exchange and the ultimate result is they don`t want to know."
"So when you call this number and think that you`re going to make a report and you`ll be treated sympathetically, and action will be taken, Mike, nothing happens."
"So let`s have a look at the initial responses. So this is one of the early replies from the Department for Education. I`m calling this Fob Off No 1 ...what comes back is a complete sidestep because the Department for Education spokesperson ... said:"
"We share the passion young people and others have for tackling climate change. We are recognised at home and abroad for our world-leading action, as the first major economy to legislate for net zero emissions and as nominated hosts for next year`s crucial climate talks that will help us shape the climate agenda; and, just today, we have helped to secure enough clean energy to power seven million homes."
Mike Robinson: "But that sounds like a ... party political statement. .. coming from the civil service."
"Mike, this is absolutely a party political statement; and then, of course, they have sidestepped why I contacted them asking for their policy on an extremist organisation called Extinction Rebellion. They give me a party political... response. So the evidence is ignored and it`s replaced with the government line on climate change which we`ve already shown in the news today is of course a major line and the policy that`s going to be forced through."
"So bring it up to date, and to answer your question, we got Fob Off No 2 a few days ago. It was 6 December 2019, and what do they say here?"
"You received an initial response from the Department of Education government spokesperson on 07.10.2019 in relation to the concerns you raised about Extinction Rebellion and their impact on the actions of children and young people. (I think they`re referring to that email I`ve just covered, but the dates don`t tie up.)
According to Government policy during the pre-election period, correspondence must not contain any content that could be perceived to be political. Therefore, the arguments raised in your letter cannot be fully addressed during this period."
"So what this lady, Sophie Taylor, the deputy director for the Department for Education is saying is: `well, while UK has an election all extremist matters are on hold. We`re not going to protect anybody`. So that was Fob Off number two. It was spun into a false election issue."
"Please note the responsibility for making assessments of groups of possible extremist concerns lies with the Home Office. We would recommend that you direct your query to them following the General Election."
"So what sort of material does this lady produce? "
Within the video there are some very young children pushing forward XR`s message. Elsewhere Brian Gerrish points out that mental health issues and depression, in particular, is rising in young people in response to the message that they have `no future.` However, as Brian Gerrish summarises:
"Extinction Rebellion is a self-confessed criminal organisation identified by a former head of MET Police Counter Terrorist Command SO15 as `an extremist one that seeks to break down the established civil order and liberal democracy in the UK`... XR is using Department of Education schools to recruit and train young people ... it is grooming and exploiting young children for its criminal aims..."
"And what is the reaction from the Department of Education? Well they`re refusing to do anything about it. We`ve got to ask the question: why? I`ll answer it and perhaps we can exchange a little bit on this Mike, but if we say `what is going on here?` there can only be one answer: and that is that Extinction Rebellion and its extremism and its criminal activity is British state approved because it is driving the climate change agenda that the government wants to see in order to get those carbon taxes in... "
"So extremism, criminal activity, is bad in Britain unless you are using it to carry out British government policy, in which case it`s all OK."
Mike Robinson: "And, of course, it`s not just the fact that it`s driving the climate change policy which the British government says it`s behind, but it`s also driving the constitutional change policy which the government is also behind, because as you all have heard in that little video they`re demanding `we want a say; we must have a say; and of course they have a say through the political process at the moment but what they want is citizens` assemblies ... a complete sweeping away of the form of governance which we have at the moment to be replaced by something else - a form of participatory democracy which probably doesn`t bear too much resemblance to what most people understand by the term `participatory democracy`."
Brian Gerrish: "And at the bottom we`ve got this false grassroots movement at the lower level. At the higher level we`ve got Nigel Farage now, of course, calling effectively for constitutional change."
"It`s just a remarkable coincidence !"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwEpJDZj2k8
[UK Column 18 December 2019]
Sunday, 3 November 2019
Grenfell report leaked
"The 1,000-page report includes fierce criticism of the London Fire Brigade and concludes fewer people would have died without its failings. A warning: this report contains images of the fire some people may find distressing."
https://www.channel4.com/news/
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[Response from Fire Brigades Union]
"Before any firefighter arrived that night, Grenfell Tower was a death trap. Firefighters that night acted bravely in impossible circumstances, many of them repeatedly risking their own lives to save others. We welcome that this is reflected in the Inquiry’s report."
"Firefighters and control room staff are, as with any profession, only able to operate within their training and procedures. It is clear that no one had planned or prepared for an incident like Grenfell. The planning by fire service policy makers did not take account of a fire where compartmentation failed on such a scale..."
“It’s disgraceful that over two years since the fire and there has been no major review or assessment of the Stay Put policy. This could have been done within months of the fire and we have raised this with government ministers on numerous occasions. Concerns about stay put policy were raised with central government years before Grenfell, the government must stop dragging its heels and recognise the urgent need to act."
Read more: https://www.fbu.org.uk/news/2019/10/30/fbu-response-grenfell-tower-inquiry-phase-one-report
Sunday, 27 October 2019
Assange court appearance
Craig Murray blogs about the recent court appearance of Julian Assange who is showing signs of psychological deterioration:
"The effort then seemed to become too much, his voice dropped and he became increasingly confused and incoherent. He spoke of whistleblowers and publishers being labeled enemies of the people, then spoke about his children’s DNA being stolen and of being spied on in his meetings with his psychologist. I am not suggesting at all that Julian was wrong about these points, but he could not properly frame nor articulate them. He was plainly not himself, very ill and it was just horribly painful to watch. Baraitser showed neither sympathy nor the least concern. She tartly observed that if he could not understand what had happened, his lawyers could explain it to him, and she swept out of court."
Read the full account below:
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2019/10/assange-in-court/
"The effort then seemed to become too much, his voice dropped and he became increasingly confused and incoherent. He spoke of whistleblowers and publishers being labeled enemies of the people, then spoke about his children’s DNA being stolen and of being spied on in his meetings with his psychologist. I am not suggesting at all that Julian was wrong about these points, but he could not properly frame nor articulate them. He was plainly not himself, very ill and it was just horribly painful to watch. Baraitser showed neither sympathy nor the least concern. She tartly observed that if he could not understand what had happened, his lawyers could explain it to him, and she swept out of court."
Read the full account below:
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2019/10/assange-in-court/
Saturday, 12 October 2019
Mounting injustice against developers of GcMAF
The Persecution of David Noakes and Lyn Thyer continues.
"Lyn is defined as a terrorist in France for curing cancer. She’s not been charged with any crime, and is rotting in a French jail. She won’t live much longer. French prisons are the worst in Europe. The MHRA has seized the money from David Noakes and his wife. Their money goes to the judge, the prosecution and the Police..."
"David is now facing extradition... "
http://tapnewswire.com/2019/10/lyn-thyer-on-hunger-strike-for-two-months-in-french-jail-attempts-suicide-live/
See: Promising role for Gc-MAF in cancer immunotherapy: from bench to bedside [link below] and other academic reports on Google Scholar which substantiate David`s claims about this human protein.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5686300/
"David is now facing extradition... "
http://tapnewswire.com/2019/10/lyn-thyer-on-hunger-strike-for-two-months-in-french-jail-attempts-suicide-live/
See: Promising role for Gc-MAF in cancer immunotherapy: from bench to bedside [link below] and other academic reports on Google Scholar which substantiate David`s claims about this human protein.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5686300/
Thursday, 3 October 2019
Smacking, now a criminal offence
"Scotland has become the first country in the UK to make it a criminal offence for parents to smack their children."
"The ban on all physical punishment was backed overwhelmingly by 84 votes to 29 by the Scottish Parliament on Thursday afternoon."
"The move will give children in Scotland the same protection from assault as adults when it comes into force."
"Parents and carers are currently allowed to use `reasonable` physical force to discipline their children."
"The smacking ban bill was introduced by Scottish Greens MSP John Finnie, a former police officer, who won the support of the SNP, Labour and Lib Dems as well as his own party and many children's charities."
"Opinion polls have suggested a majority of people in Scotland are opposed to a smacking ban - with critics arguing that the current law is sufficient, and that the changes risk criminalising "good" parents."
"But most of the responses to a consultation on Mr Finnie's bill were in favour of a ban, and the move has been widely supported by children's charities."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-49908849?fbclid=IwAR0fTLM9jWEgWaJ3X95hbomKYr4Gi2DRsUjJ5AxJUX3VMOToSW0k2Ds4zhA
Saturday, 7 September 2019
The Royal Connection
Brian Gerrish in the UK Column studio, 28 August 2019: "Well, let`s end with the subject of Jeffrey Epstein. Of course this came to a head about the time we did our last news early in the month, but the story is continuing to drag on. Here`s the BBC: Jeffrey Epstein accuser urges Prince Andrew to `come clean` So it`s saying a woman who accused the late financier Jeffrey Epstein of sex abuse and alleged she was forced to have sex with Prince Andrew as a l7-year-old has urged the UK royal to `come clean`... She`s said this in writing but she`s also said this in front of cameras very recently. `Speaking after a hearing for alleged victims in the wake of Epstein`s death, Virginia Giuffre told reporters the prince `knows what he`s done`. "
"The Duke of York denies the accusations; and then it said: `Epstein killed himself in his prison cell this month while awaiting trial on sex trafficking and conspiracy charges`. That was remarkably convenient and got rid of a lot of problems for a lot of people I think."
"But let`s follow the BBC report through because they don`t actually give the main detail about Prince Andrew. You`ve got to connect via web links embedded in the article. So it`s very interesting to see how the BBC plays this. If you do connect on the links it all becomes a bit explicit because here`s Prince Andrew together with his young lady ... on location in one of Epstein`s houses and of course this is the other picture which won`t go away which is of Prince Andrew with Epstein in Central Park after Epstein had been released from prison and was, therefore, at that stage a convicted paedophile. So where does this go?"
"Well if you follow the BBC article through who did it end with? It ended with a picture of Epstein alongside Trump. So there`s all the charges. What was Epstein charged with? That`s listed quite simply. What`s the last image that the BBC puts in your mind? It isn`t Prince Andrew, it`s Trump. I thought this was a very carefully crafted article."
"But this was the Guardian. `Prince Andrew knows what he`s done says Jeffrey Epstein accuser. Royal has previously denied Virginia Giuffre`s accusation that she was forced to have sex with him and this is what Andrew said. He made Epstein`s acquaintance in 1999 and saw him once or maybe twice each year. The prince also said he stayed at several of Epstein`s homes. He did not see, witness or suspect any behaviour of the sort that subsequently led to Epstein`s arrest and conviction.` So that`s good. He added. `I`ve said previously it was a mistake, an error, to see him after his release from prison in 2010 and I can only reiterate my regret that I was mistaken to think that what I thought I knew of him was evidently not the real person, given what we now know`."
"That`s surprising isn`t it? Because he`d been released from prison after being found guilty of what was effectively a paedophile offence."
Mike Robinson: "Yes that`s an untenable position to be taking."
Brian Gerrish: "I think this is desperation because it`s complete rubbish. `The prince also said his suicide has left many unanswered questions and I acknowledge and sympathise with everyone who`s been affected and wants some form of closure`..."
"We`d like to say that as far as the Prince is concerned we remember: Oxford and Cherwell Valley College. It`s going back to 2011 when the UK Column did a lot of work on the abuse of youngsters at that college; and we also became aware that Prince Andrew was due to visit the college and warned one of his aides that the college had been involved in some pretty appalling stuff with the students. But Prince Andrew continued with the visit and he went and visited one of the worst of the workshops where abuse had taken place. So he didn`t seem very concrned about that angle."
"But somebody took up the case though and they started to ask some Freedom of Information questions about the college and his visit and I just thought people would be interested to see that the response that Mr Roberts got was effectively to say: `Well we can`t give you too much information because it concerns the Royal Family."
"I refer to your recent request concerning all letters and emails relating to the recent visit of Prince Andrew to the College. I would refer you to section 40 relating to personal data 37 (1) (ac and ad) in respect of communications with the Royal Family and the Royal Household and Section 38 which relates to endangering the safety of an individual..."
"So if you ask questions about a royal visit to a college where the abuse of children has taken place they can`t tell you anything because it might endanger the Royal Family."
"Yes brilliant."
"And here we`ve got a bit more.... 37 ac and ad are qualified exemptions and therefore subject to a public interest test. But essentially, the public is not going to get any information when they ask questions."
"And we`ll end on this report from the Mail. We`ve got another lady coming forward to report abuse: `British actress, 42, went to school with Kate Middleton, revealed she was manipulated coerced and sexually abused by Jeffrey Epstein as a teenager at a hearing alongside 30 of the paedophile`s victims`. But embedded in the Mail article was this paragraph."
"`Epstein`s lawyers were also given a chance to speak. They suggested, shockingly, that he had been murdered and said his neck injuries were more consistent with a homicide than suicide`. They told the judge they had hired their own experts to look into whether or not the disgraced paedophile might have been killed."
"That was the little piece buried in the article. The Mail to its credit put a bit more information in. They had this:"
"Officials said Epstein hanged himself with a bed sheet from the top set of bunks. He was found with several broken bones in his neck, including the hyoid bone, when guards were doing their morning rounds. Revelations of the broken bones in his neck lead to speculation that his death was a homicide. Breakages to that specific one can occur when people hang themselves but are more commonly seen in victims who have been strangled, according to forensic experts."
"So that didn`t appear in the BBC report but the Mail did get it out, but our take on it is that it is a very convenient death - of Mr Epstein - and of course the palace will now do their best to stay in the background. and let it all disappear into the long grass."
Mike Robinson. "I hope that will not be allowed to happen."
"Indeed."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WIjySKt01Y
"The Duke of York denies the accusations; and then it said: `Epstein killed himself in his prison cell this month while awaiting trial on sex trafficking and conspiracy charges`. That was remarkably convenient and got rid of a lot of problems for a lot of people I think."
"But let`s follow the BBC report through because they don`t actually give the main detail about Prince Andrew. You`ve got to connect via web links embedded in the article. So it`s very interesting to see how the BBC plays this. If you do connect on the links it all becomes a bit explicit because here`s Prince Andrew together with his young lady ... on location in one of Epstein`s houses and of course this is the other picture which won`t go away which is of Prince Andrew with Epstein in Central Park after Epstein had been released from prison and was, therefore, at that stage a convicted paedophile. So where does this go?"
"Well if you follow the BBC article through who did it end with? It ended with a picture of Epstein alongside Trump. So there`s all the charges. What was Epstein charged with? That`s listed quite simply. What`s the last image that the BBC puts in your mind? It isn`t Prince Andrew, it`s Trump. I thought this was a very carefully crafted article."
"But this was the Guardian. `Prince Andrew knows what he`s done says Jeffrey Epstein accuser. Royal has previously denied Virginia Giuffre`s accusation that she was forced to have sex with him and this is what Andrew said. He made Epstein`s acquaintance in 1999 and saw him once or maybe twice each year. The prince also said he stayed at several of Epstein`s homes. He did not see, witness or suspect any behaviour of the sort that subsequently led to Epstein`s arrest and conviction.` So that`s good. He added. `I`ve said previously it was a mistake, an error, to see him after his release from prison in 2010 and I can only reiterate my regret that I was mistaken to think that what I thought I knew of him was evidently not the real person, given what we now know`."
"That`s surprising isn`t it? Because he`d been released from prison after being found guilty of what was effectively a paedophile offence."
Mike Robinson: "Yes that`s an untenable position to be taking."
Brian Gerrish: "I think this is desperation because it`s complete rubbish. `The prince also said his suicide has left many unanswered questions and I acknowledge and sympathise with everyone who`s been affected and wants some form of closure`..."
"We`d like to say that as far as the Prince is concerned we remember: Oxford and Cherwell Valley College. It`s going back to 2011 when the UK Column did a lot of work on the abuse of youngsters at that college; and we also became aware that Prince Andrew was due to visit the college and warned one of his aides that the college had been involved in some pretty appalling stuff with the students. But Prince Andrew continued with the visit and he went and visited one of the worst of the workshops where abuse had taken place. So he didn`t seem very concrned about that angle."
"But somebody took up the case though and they started to ask some Freedom of Information questions about the college and his visit and I just thought people would be interested to see that the response that Mr Roberts got was effectively to say: `Well we can`t give you too much information because it concerns the Royal Family."
"I refer to your recent request concerning all letters and emails relating to the recent visit of Prince Andrew to the College. I would refer you to section 40 relating to personal data 37 (1) (ac and ad) in respect of communications with the Royal Family and the Royal Household and Section 38 which relates to endangering the safety of an individual..."
"So if you ask questions about a royal visit to a college where the abuse of children has taken place they can`t tell you anything because it might endanger the Royal Family."
"Yes brilliant."
"And here we`ve got a bit more.... 37 ac and ad are qualified exemptions and therefore subject to a public interest test. But essentially, the public is not going to get any information when they ask questions."
"And we`ll end on this report from the Mail. We`ve got another lady coming forward to report abuse: `British actress, 42, went to school with Kate Middleton, revealed she was manipulated coerced and sexually abused by Jeffrey Epstein as a teenager at a hearing alongside 30 of the paedophile`s victims`. But embedded in the Mail article was this paragraph."
"`Epstein`s lawyers were also given a chance to speak. They suggested, shockingly, that he had been murdered and said his neck injuries were more consistent with a homicide than suicide`. They told the judge they had hired their own experts to look into whether or not the disgraced paedophile might have been killed."
"That was the little piece buried in the article. The Mail to its credit put a bit more information in. They had this:"
"Officials said Epstein hanged himself with a bed sheet from the top set of bunks. He was found with several broken bones in his neck, including the hyoid bone, when guards were doing their morning rounds. Revelations of the broken bones in his neck lead to speculation that his death was a homicide. Breakages to that specific one can occur when people hang themselves but are more commonly seen in victims who have been strangled, according to forensic experts."
"So that didn`t appear in the BBC report but the Mail did get it out, but our take on it is that it is a very convenient death - of Mr Epstein - and of course the palace will now do their best to stay in the background. and let it all disappear into the long grass."
Mike Robinson. "I hope that will not be allowed to happen."
"Indeed."
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