"Let`s come on to the subject of UK`s death pathway," says Brian Gerrish. "Some people are going to be a little bit upset by this as a title but in the background, over several years now, the UK Column has been receiving more and more information saying that something very serious...something dark is going on within the NHS. We`ve taken these reports very seriously. We`ve dealt with them very carefully but as time`s gone on it`s true to say that the evidence is building that there`s something extremely unpleasant going on."
"Now we`re going to come back to this case of young Alfie Evans because a great many people have contacted us and asked us just to pay attention to what`s happening in this particular case and so, as Mike set out yesterday, this little boy became ill and we`ve now got to the stage where reports are simply saying that: `No, he must be allowed to die,`even though medical facilities and doctors overseas, particularly in Italy, are saying: `We can take this child.` So what does the court do? It rules that the little boy is a British citizen; he`s now under the control of the court; and, therefore, he`s now going to be allowed to die under the control of the court."
"So it would seem at first glance that the actual policy being implemented by the court here is a care policy by a pathway to death. So let`s just have a look at the timeline. We`ve chosen the Daily Mail because they were kind enough to give a concise report here. So we can see first of all that in May 2016 Alfie is born apparently perfectly healthy but misses.... numerous milestones in his development in his first seven months and by December 2016 Alfie`s caught a chest infection and he`s having seizures. He`s taken to Alder Hey children`s hospital in Liverpool where he`s put on life support and then he remains there."
"Eventually the hospital is upset because the parents have smuggled in a German doctor, according to this report, in a bid to stop Alfie`s life support being switched off; and I can imagine the hospital getting pretty worried about that because this would mean, if you like, an independent medical opinion starting to have access to the child. So where does that take us? Well it takes us to February 20th when Mr Justine Hayden rules that doctors can stop providing treatment to Alfie and this is then backed by three court of appeal judges ruling that the doctors can stop treatment."
"Eventually by March 20th ... a panel of three justices headed by Supreme Court president Lady Hale decide the case is quote `Not worth arguing`. That`s an interesting expression Mike... and they refuse to give the couple permission to mount a further appeal. So here`s the justice system now driving a wedge between parents and their child. "
"So let`s follow it through because now we can come into the real meat of it. So April 11th the high court judge endorse an end of life care plan for the 23 month old boy. By April 20th the Supreme Court has rejected the latest legal bid. Even the European Court of Human Rights refuses to intervene - I`ll just come back and say that that reinforces your comments about ... human rights instead of freedoms and God given inalienable rights. Here we`re being given rights by a European system which then takes them away."
"April 24th a special session in the High Court in Manchester rejects the application to overturn the decision; and, finally, April 25th appeal judges asked to overturn the April 24th decision but the parents` appeal is denied."
Mike Robinson responds: "It`s interesting that the mail doesn`t mention the intervention by the Pope who had .... I believe intervened to help get this child transported to Italy; but that has been rejected as well.by the state. At the heart of this Brian is the idea that... parents are not capable of making decisions about what`s in the best interest of the child. As I heard a lot of the mainstream coverage of this on the radio over the last couple of days, it`s all been about: `Well European countries don`t normally sort of concern themselves with the best interests of the child. It`s only in Britain we concern ourselves with the best interests of the child; and so, in our opinion, the best interests of the child is to allow the child to die."
Brian Gerrish: "Well yes, this is the theme and this is where we`re going to take people today. It`s a very serious theme; it`s very dark; but we need to discuss it."
"Well let`s bring in at least a couple of the judges, so we can see who we`re dealing with. This is judge Hayden; he ruled on the 20th February decision that doctors can stop treatment of Alfie. And I picked out a Telegraph headline here: `Judge questions why taxpayers` money has been spent stopping British boy travelling to Syria for jihad.` This is a very controversial judge. He`s very big in promoting gay interests and some people are saying at the moment that this automatically means that he may be less than - what`s the word - `independent `to the Alfie case because they`ve chosen to have the support of Christian barristers. So whether there`s truth in that we don`t know but we can certainly say this is a very controversial judge. "
"And he`s also been working to produce documents to do with the law and how the law should be followed through. Maybe that`s appropriate for a judge but if I now bring in this lady - here she is - Lady Hale, it becomes very interesting because if you read her CV here it says: `Well this is the first academic lawyer, law reformer, that has actually come into the job of president of the Supreme Court. So what they`re saying is that this isn`t somebody who`s been through the law system full time. This is actually a person who`s been working in the background, helping to devise political policy."
"And I ask the question: `Is this what`s happening now, the implementation of that political policy in court with respect to powers of parents over their ... own children? So quite a few questions to be asked there and at this point let`s remind people of this lady, SNP Minister Aileen `also` Campbell. Where did she get that strange name from? Well she is on record as saying with respect to the draconian SNP Named Person scheme: `We recognise parents also have a role in making decisions [about raising children.] Now UK Column reported this several times, at the time she made this comment, and we said to people: `Do you realise what this means?` What this woman is saying is that the intention is, in Scotland at least, that the state will have the principle authority for bringing up a child. But don`t worry, as a parent you may also have a bit of a role."
"And now what are we seeing in this court case? Well, we`re seeing in this court case that the judges in court - remember no jury - this is simply judges in the court, saying: `Well you`re a parent but you can`t really make sensible decisions for your own child`s life, so we`re going to take that decision away from you`."
"Now people are creating quite a stir over the media in respect to this and I feel quite rightly. What is the result of that? Well Merseyside Police have issued a statement: This is the statement: `We`ve issued a statement this evening to make people aware that social media posts which are being posted in relation to Alder Hey and the Alfie Evans situation are being monitored and may be acted upon. Read the full statement here`. So this is a threat from Merseyside Police that if people are getting a bit emotional about what`s been happening about Alfie and that carries over, spills over on to social media, they are actually taking action."
"But this is the same police that refuse to intervene in deaths in NHS hospitals, or it`s very difficult to get them to intervene. I can say from a personal basis we were able to get Devon and Cornwall Police to intervene in the death of a lady in Derriford Hospital but, my goodness, it was quite a battle to do that and the police even told us at the time that they really had to make an appointment with the Chief Executive to get information although they were dealing with a death."
"So this is a comment from a person this morning and I think it was pretty astute: `Perhaps we should remember that Merseyside police lied to try and cover up the Hillsborough deaths.`"
"This is sinister stuff Mike. We`ve got parents desperately worried about what`s happened to their child in hospital; the police are not there in the background thinking that maybe a dirty deed has been done by the hospital; this is: `You get out of line on social media and Merseyside Police are going to be after you."
Death pathway for the elderly
"So let`s look at the key points around the death pathway for elderly people in this country."
"Food and drink are now ruled as medical treatment. In fact that`s across all age groups, so would apply to Alfie as well. So when you see the fact he hasn`t been receiving the food or drink, that is actually considered part of medical treatment; and when you see the statement: `Doctors have stopped medical treatment`, that`s food and drink as well."
"Removing fluids leads to dehydration which leads to loss of cognitive function and dementia-like symptoms. That`s an important characteristic."
"Based on the `dementia` symptoms drugs can be administered which produce further mental confusion."
"Cocktails of drugs, including sedatives, are used to produce a comatose state ultimately leading to death."
"If family members complain about `treatment` they are barred from hospital wards and/or Office of Public Guardian/Court of Protection is used to take the relatives from their care. Wards are often locked..."
"Elderly people 80 and over can simply be diagnosed as dying from `old age`. So the moment you`re in hospital; you`re over 80; you die; somebody can fill in a form saying: `Well you died of old age.` No forensic toxicology; no investigation into what actually caused the death."
"NHS death certificates should be completed by two doctors [at £85 per signature] but often now we see just one doctor signing and often where that doctor has never seen the patient and this is called colloquially within the NHS...`ash for cash`."
"And coroners are fully integrated with local authorities, police and the NHS. So there`s no separation of powers."
"And if you say, why would they be doing this? The answer is that it`s deemed that there`s too many old useless eaters who are costing the NHS and government money. This is sinister stuff Mike."
Mike Robinson replies: "And so what seems to be being suggested here is that perhaps the same type of treatment is being applied to Alfie as well. Perhaps the point we should make, although the term is no longer used any more, of course, the original death pathway was called ... the Liverpool Care Pathway."
Brian Gerrish: "Well, I`m getting exactly where you are pointing. Let`s just show people that what we`re talking about is real. This is a BBC headline from a little while ago. `Norfolk and Norwich Hospital creates A&E for elderly patients`. So you go to hospital as an elderly person; you are going to be segregated through a different system and many people say they find this very sinister. `Elderly patients will be sent straight to a dedicated emergency department when they arrive at the hospital.` And if there`s a `Do not resuscitate [notice`] on their records I think we know what`s going to happen. `This means we`ve got to do something that no-one else has done before in the UK, to ensure our older patients are able to receive the best care most appropriate to their needs in a timely manner...` I don`t get a warm feeling from this language. And then the article is quick to point out there`s 571,245 people aged 90 and over living in the UK in 2016, and I think the implication is that they`re too expensive; they`re costing too much money."
Death pathway for children
"So really Mike, your question was this: `Why would children be put on a death pathway? And this has been derived from information that`s been coming into the UK Column for some time:"
"To destroy evidence of medical negligence - and I think this may apply in the Alfie case."
"To destroy evidence of vaccine damage - and I think this might apply in the Alfie case."
"To destroy evidence of pharmaceutical drug tests."
"Valuable body parts"
"And cash incentives."
"And If you think that`s just too strong, then here we are, an article setting out `Hospitals bribed to put patients on pathway to death`."
"So the evidence is hidden in plain sight and this is very very serious and sinister stuff. Now this particular image on screen is from the twitter page of a Dr Jones... and he`s pointing out that there is a petition at the moment that children who have received at least diagnosis or treatment under the NHS without success should be allowed to go abroad. That`s already received well over 10,000 signatures... and basically there`s still silence from the UK government."
"If you want to understand this more have a look at the UK Column website and search for `Mechanics of Modern Murder` where there`s an interview on this very subject."
This section of the programme is completed with a reminder of the Dying for Good Health conference at Albert Hall, Nottingham on 12 May to `promote the good in the NHS and also to delve into other areas that authorities refuse to report`.
Note that the reputation of Alder Hey hospital has also been tarnished by the illegal collection of children`s organs, particularly that resulting from Professor van Velzen`s practices.
See also `Children Placed on Controversial Death Pathway` at link below: